I think the correct update number is actually KB3035583!!

I am flirting with the idea of installing Win 10 Enterprise LTS (thru MSDN) on my personal machine, but I can see no upsides over Win 7, apart from little things like slightly better battery life, and plenty of downsides.
So now I'm not going to bother until Server 2016 is released, then I will update everything at once.

What you need to do is do the update scan and then, when it shows it as available, you deselect it and then right click to hide the update.

BUT....

If you had earlier selected the 'I want a free upgrade' option then you probably want to right click on the systray icon, check status and then cancel the request first.

When you have done all that you might want to do a 'disk cleanup' on the C drive as you'll probably find the 3 Gig hidden download folder there.

There are also a couple of other updates you want to uninstall too as they were added by Microsoft to allow 'telemetry tracking' on Windows 7 - i.e. one of the privacy issues people are annoyed about on Windows X.

KB2952664 Compatibility update for upgrading Windows 7
KB2990214 Update that enables you to upgrade from Windows 7 to a later version of Windows
KB3021917 Update to Windows 7 SP1 for performance improvements
KB3022345 Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry
KB3035583 Update installs get windows 10 app in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 SP1
KB3068708 (replaces KB3022345) Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry
KB3075249 Update that adds telemetry points to consent.exe in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7
KB3080149 Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry


Worse thing I found about 10 was that it does the driver/updates etc and you can't stop 10 from doing it. There is a problem with one of the Nvidia drivers on a dual graphic card laptop - where it black screens the laptop display - so if you install the fixed driver from Nvidia site, Windows will then update it to the faulty one for the next reboot.

As Microsoft are now not telling you what each update fixes either, this is particularly annoying for support as the 'what did you last update to stop the software working' question now has no meaning.

If you're not sure whether to download or install your Free Win 10 upgrade, I can assure you it's worth every penny you paid for it.


:yuk:

I only 'upgraded' one laptop and reverted it after a week. It still tried to do the update until I did the bits detailed earlier.

It was the mandatory updates and the feeling of not actually being in charge of what software was installed on my machine that finally swung it, this was above and beyond the bits about scanning all your files and happening to pass the list to an American organisation that looks for copyright infringements, or the fact your decryption key is uploaded to microsoft if you disk encrypt etc....

It won't let go!
 

Accidentally ticked Windows 10 in Windows Update, so I unticked it. I even hid it! But, every time I run Windows update, the first thing that happens is "Downloading Windows 10" and "getting Setup files". All I can do is cancel the update.

I had a look for
but it wasn't installed.

Any tips on stopping Win 10 coming down via Windows update?

Generous new Microsoft initiative ......
 

I was alerted to this development by a somewhat disturbing message in another group to which I subscribe:

Microsoft is downloading Windows 10 to your machine 'just in case'- The Inquirer

Make of it what you will ....

Regards,
FOR

I wonder what drugs are in the water supply over in Seattle?

Did Microsoft even think for two seconds about pushing a mulit-gigabyte file to every Windows device?

I'm so glad I rarely have to use Windows any more, but I'd better check whether it's sucking up multiple gigabytes of the ~100GB SSD on my games machine. Because I so want 5% of the disk wasted on an OS 'upgrade' I'm never going to install.

Surely this should be an 'opt in' service? Since 5 Aug 2015, I've had 46 instances of 'Upgrade to Windows 10 Pro......failed', yet have never requested any such 'upgrade'...

The 'Error details' shows 'Code 80240020'.

Looking further, I've found that a folder '$Windows.~BT' has appeared on my C-drive. It's some 4.07 Gb in size and includes 15,595 files in 3,380 folders, all of which concern Windows 10.....

M$, what on earth possessed you to force this cr@p on people who haven't asked for it?

Yes, that's apparently the advanced symptom of this un-requested malware.

From what I've read, there were eight 'upgrades' to W7 & W8 which facilitated the development reported above. The original article lists the upgrades, and gives details for a good old fashioned DOS based batch file to un-install them.

There are also details for a registry addition to steer clear of this development, but it may be too late for that in a lot of instances.

I've done both of these mods to my currently available Win7 machine, and the issue seems to have gone - for the present.

However, I'm most reluctant to share these fixes at this stage, primarily because of possible repercussions from people on this board who have intimidated the more timid users into a cautious reluctance to share such radical information. I also don't want to be suggesting changes to other people's computers which need a bit more time to be proven as rock solid safe.

If the information in the original SIG posting I read this morning is true, then there's no way in the world that I would touch Windows 10 - ever! The posting identifies some quite frightening potential issues, which most users will be blissfully unaware of - at least in the early stages.

It looks very much like W7 - and perhaps W8 - will be the last versions of Windows for this particular user.

BTW, the source of this information would appear to be highly reliable, and what it reports is what I have discovered on my own W7 machine.

I'm sorry but that's about as much of the reported information as I want to share at this stage - for reasons I've already stated.

FOR

Don't get Mad, get even ...

European Consumer Centres - European Commission

Complain to the EC, might as well get something out of Brussels, before you leave ...

I am very happy with my W 7.
Anyone happy with their Win 10, or shall I just ignore the daily bits of insistence from MS that I should download and install 10?

AO,

Why not google how to get rid of it completely and permanently? Easy enough to do.

SD

SD
yup, thanks.
done that now. Easier than I expected.

When 10 is working, wonderful and worth the downsides, will someone kindly let us know?
Ta
AO

Windows 10 is better than the previous versions. Upgrades on both my computers (win 8.1 desktop and win 7 laptop) went easily with no problems.

Everything still worked afterwards, nothing had to be reinstalled.

The only downside is some old games wont work, but they wont with win 7 & 8 now either as MS killed a type of DRM used by the old games for security purposes.

I too am thinking about taking advantage of the free upgrade to Windows 10. However, like others here I'm concerned about the loss of non-Microsoft programmes that I currently use with Windows 7 Home Premium. In particular I'm concerned about to possible loss of my Lotus Organizer 97, don't laugh - this great little programme has served my well for many years and does everything I want from it, i.e. it keeps all my names, addresses and contact in one simple and easy-to-use location.


So guys and gals, does anyone know if Lotus Organizer 97 will work with Windows 10? If it won't, can you advise a suitable alternate, remember - it has to be simple and easy-to-use. Many thanks.

Lotus Organizer 97 appears to work on WIn10 64-bit - at least it installed and a brief test of a few of the basic functions worked. Can't vouch for anything further.

One of my previous employers bought the whole Lotus suite for its staff. It was brilliant. Always simple, easy to use, and with high levels of reliability.
Shame it was killed off by the beancounters.

Many thanks le Pingouin, that's very reassuring.

Went away to Germany on Wednesday, after the latest Tuesday patches had been installed....

Whilst I was away, I'd left my backup Win 8.1 laptop running. When I returned home late last night, I found that Win 10 had installed itself without my request or agreement.....:eek:

Apart from a missing driver (which took an age to replace) and a few unwanted taskbar icons, it doesn't seem much different to Win 8.1. Today I got rid of that stupid Cortana nonsense and changed a few privacy settings to frustrate Micro$oft's advertising income greed, but otherwise for the limited use for which I need the backup laptop, all seems OK.

But how dare Micro$oft act in this way!