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Lon More 11th Feb 2014 11:35

Thanks again, Wholi.

are any other sites affected I wonder?

vulcanised 11th Feb 2014 11:45

AV Forums had so many problems with VBulletin they dumped it altogether recently.

Wholigan 11th Feb 2014 12:05

A small update. It seems that the above explanation may not be entirely accurate and that there may indeed be some posts that are on the next page.

Could I please ask you all to do something for me to check what they are telling me?

If you see a phantom page, then before you post a reply could you please make note of the last post number and the post content on the last page visible. Then when you have posted please note if there are other posts already on the new page.

Not sure if that will help them but it would help me.

Many thanks.

rgbrock1 11th Feb 2014 12:12

Wholigan wrote:


If you see a phantom page, then before you post a reply could you please make note of the last post number and the post content on the last page visible. Then when you have posted please note if there are other posts already on the new page.
i read this before my first coffee. After the second sentence my brains exploded all over my LCD, due to incomprehension. Thanks Wholigan! :ok:

Wholigan 11th Feb 2014 16:47

Got you awake though eh? :E;)

BOAC 11th Feb 2014 17:00

I'll post this again from the previous thread on this topic:ugh:

IF YOU SELECT 'POST REPLY' YOU WILL NORMALLY BE ABLE TO READ ALL THE 'MISSING' POSTS

Note to IB: The posts are normally 'there' and it is thought to be the usual heavy-handed, often quirky, moderation and deletion of posts that causes the problem with the database. I believe it was claimed it would be sorted on the next db run.

IBobi 11th Feb 2014 20:00

Hi all,

Thanks for reporting this issue. I had thought that the "phantom" pages were actually just a pagination error, and there were no posts that could not be seen -- just a page number that had no posts, that could not be reached.

For instance, in the Saville thread mentioned earlier, I see page 69, it has 2 posts on it (since my posts per page is set to default -- 20), the last post being #1362 by vulcanised

http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/4676...my-savile.html

If you are saying that you know there are posts that you can't see, I'll need to reproduce that so tech can fix it. Please post links to any threads you're seeing this issue with.

Thank you

IBobi 12th Feb 2014 19:21

Is this still happening? Tech have run the cleanup script for this.

unstable load 14th Feb 2014 09:34

I was on the Bristow photos thread earleir and there was a ghost link that returned to the current page I was on.

Lon More 14th Feb 2014 09:38

Had one on TRABB yesterday

henry_crun 14th Feb 2014 09:50

We are currently one post in arrears on Last Two Letters, the phantom page turns up on the penultimate post. But please don't fix it, we use it to add to the humor of the game. (US spelling of humour intentional)

IBobi 14th Feb 2014 18:02

We are currently one post in arrears on Last Two Letters, the phantom page turns up on the penultimate post.

Hmm. I'm not able to replicate any of these. This thread:

http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/4710...-word-529.html

...lets me go to page 529 (the past page for me, at 20 posts/page), final post being Henry Crun's Erdinger-Dunkel photo at timestamp 14th Feb 2014, 10:54.

No?

Quizling 14th Feb 2014 21:03

At this time the "Jimmy Savile" thread has 1393 posts, but is showing a "ghost" page.

ie. seven posts before it should show a new page.

Good luck sorting this.

IBobi 14th Feb 2014 21:06

http://www.pprune.org/jet-blast/4676...savile-70.html

I show latest post #1393 timestamped 14th Feb 2014, 13:33 by SpringHeeledJack

Page 70 for me, (20 posts/page), no phantom.

probes 14th Feb 2014 21:09

Dunno. What could possibly be SO annoying about it? You click on the last one, appears it isn't, you know it's the phantom, so...? Wonders someone who's really picky about the No of clicks needed and speed also. :uhoh:

IBobi 14th Feb 2014 21:11

I have seen similar behavior from other VB sites and assumed it was the same, i.e. phantom pages but no actual additional posts (so nobody is really missing anything, it's just a pagination error). In that case, we'd just live with it, because as you say, no big deal.

But some members have reported that there are in fact posts that have been made on the phantom pages that can't be seen (how they would know that is still not clear to me...), so I'm continuing to investigate.

llondel 15th Feb 2014 03:15

http://www.llondel.org/jpgs/jb-phantom.png

This is what I currently see in the Jimmy Savile thread. Clearly another post has been added from the previous 1393 and then there's a link for a page 71.

Possibly admin accounts see something cleaner than non-admin accounts?

Quizling 15th Feb 2014 18:59

Ibobi, another observation which I hope may help.

Jimmy Savile thread again at this time stands at 1395 on page 70, with a link to page 71 as shown in llondel's post above.

Jet Blast Main Menu (currently page 2) shows "Sir Jimmy Savile" thread as having 1402 replies. Clicking on "1402" brings up the "who has posted" window which correctly shows 1395 posts, so clearly there are two counters involved, one of which has lost it's way.

I've checked under two O/Ss in case this was all the result of Windoze, but got the same result with both.

I agree with earlier posters the "phantom" page issue is a very minor inconvenience to us as users, and indeed has been the source of some lighthearted fun in the TRABB thread, but I once did a job somewhat similar to yours and can remember how irritating niggles like this could be. :ok:

henry_crun 19th Feb 2014 12:54

Phantom page reports
 
IBobi asked us to report phantom pages but I can't find the thread - so here's a new one.

Aircrew - Rotor heads - Police helicopter:
Phantom page 118 currently showing.

Social - Jet Blast - Last two letters:
We love phantom page jokes, please don't fix :p

dubbleyew eight 19th Feb 2014 14:58

aren't the phantom pages just the pprune software preparing a new template for continuation of posts ?


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