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Keef 27th Mar 2014 14:37

I'm running Firefox 28.0 and don't have any of the above problems. It starts quickly enough that I don't notice it, and it plays nicely. What am I doing wrong?

Capetonian 27th Mar 2014 14:41

I updated yesterday to 28.0 and have no problems even on my old slow laptop.

Does anyone know if here is anything like the Google Toolbar which apparently no longer exists for FF. It was very useful for the autocomplete options.

G-CPTN 27th Mar 2014 23:23

Having endured:-

When I opened FF I found that it wouldn't open my Hotmail emails (Hotmail will load but won't open the messages - this works just fine in IE). I also found that 'Restore previous session' was 'empty'.
Now it is running PPRuNe in reduced graphics 'text only' format without the usual coloured borders - this also applies to another bulletin-board site that I use.
It seems to be a 'memory' problem.
for two days, I have rebooted once more and the situation is now back to normal with full graphics as expected.

Hallelujah!

DX Wombat 28th Mar 2014 00:04


What am I doing wrong?
Nothing Keef, it is simple fear of what the Almighty might do if it mucked up your computer. ;)

gemma10 30th Mar 2014 14:28

Im not entierly sure which version Im on now. Confusion prevails. Firefox says Im not on the latest version. Do I want to update? Yes please! You are already on the latest version.:ugh::ugh::ugh: Give me strenghth.

dazdaz1 30th Mar 2014 15:26

Gemma.......while in the ff browser. Click on 'help' top left of screen. Then click 'about firefox' you'll get a small window which shows your version of firefox. Also you will see a box 'check for updates' click it. Hope it helps.

G-CPTN 28th May 2014 10:31

My Firefox screen has just gone 'full screen' - that is, whatever application I access fills the whole of my laptop screen and is devoid of any toolbars (and no bottom Windows icons) - no obvious way to reduce the screen cover and I have to go to Task Manager (via Ctrl Alt Del) and End Process to escape.


I have re-installed Firefox by downloading 29.0.1 but it returns to full screen without any means of escape other than the aforementioned Task Manager route.
I am currently using IE11 - but that is infected with the (dreaded) QONE8 search engine (even though the Home Page URL is set to Google!).


How do I 'crack' into Firefox to reset a sensible screen size (there's no 'Tools' or icons to click on . . .

Tarq57 28th May 2014 10:53

Might be a bit tooo obvious, but did you try the f11 button?

G-CPTN 28th May 2014 11:14


Might be a bit tooo obvious, but did you try the f11 button?
Thank-you - sensibility restored!

:D

:ok:

Cameronian 9th Jun 2014 01:25

I started to get unpredictable problems with Firefox - sometimes delays, sometimes media issues and sometimes it just stuck, for example. It was a pity because I had used it for a while and was pleased with it.

A few months ago I changed painlessly to Pale Moon and am happy again. I have lots of add-ons and things yet it takes (I've just closed and restarted it to be sure) just a couple of seconds to open the blank page and another six to fill that page with the BBC news.

Several of you worthies on here (you know who you are, thank you!) helped me when I had issues with Thunderbird. Some told me to chuck it and some suggested how to fix it. I did the latter but the shadow of the problems still hangs over me. Do any of you have experience with FossaMail? It sort of seems to be to Thunderbird what Pale Moon is to Firefox so is a bit of "the devil I know". Is it a success?

ExSp33db1rd 9th Jun 2014 04:15

Just spent 10 minutes writing this, and it zapped off into Cyberspace when I wasn't looking - I hate computers, the old Remington typewriter never did that ! ( if this proves to post twice, apologies )

Start again ........ Following my enquiry on a previous thread about Firefox, I was advised to do this by "booglebox" (eternally grateful, thanks).........

Quote ... Anyone who hates the latest version of Firefox: take the LTS version and get security updates too.
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/

I followed that advice and regained my faith in Firefox again, i.e. back to normal, fast and stable and didn't keep switching off, except that being sucked into some Registry checking thing that I didn't initiate, last week, I accidentally downloaded the latest version of Firefox again and back we went to all the problems, so I repeated the above and calm and serenity was restored.

As a result I'll never upgrade to a newer version of Firefox, happy with what I know - just like the Word 97 programme that I still use, Office 365 fcuk off.

Except that last week I spent almost a whole 8 hour day with HSBC in the UK at International telephone rates- albeit on some cheaper VOIP thing - trying to get started with their telephone banking sysetm - they took 10 minutes everytime to send a verification code by text to my cellphone on the other side of the World -and yes, I do know the name of my first dog, and my first car, and where my father was born, and No, I'm not trying to move 20 Trillion dollars to some 2nd Lt. in Al Queda, thank you, so eventually I was accepted for Internet Banking using one of those button pressing gadgets that they had sent me a few months ago when I sent them a Secret Word that I promptly forgot.

First time I tried to check my account having jumped through all the hoops, I got a beautiful, totally blank, white screen. Back to the telephone to be told " Oh, didn't we tell you ? You can't use Firefox or Chrome, only Internet Explorer."

Oh, for fcuks sake, give me strength.

KelvinD 9th Jun 2014 07:20

I wonder what I am missing here?
I have been using Firefox since it was first released and have had no serious problems with it. Today, I am running version 29.0.1 and it is problem free. One caveat though; Adobe Flash Player can cause problems when I have multiple tabs open but this can be fixed whenever the mood takes me. In the meantime, Flash Player crashes can be dealt with by simply refreshing the affected tab.
Similarly with Thunderbird, I have used this for my emails since the year dot and have had no problems with it.
Capetonian: if you still haven't found your Google helper thing, have a look at the small window on the right of the toolbar. There will be a small arrow in there and if you click on that, you should see a list of search engine options available. Google is one of those.
ExSp33db1rd: Which particular section of HSBC were you talking to? I have used Internet Banking with HSBC for some years now, using the little button pressy thingy and have no problems. More to the point, I have always used Firefox for this and never Internet Explorer.
Finally, the best feature of Firefox, in my opinion, is the No Script add-on. Brilliant!

Booglebox 9th Jun 2014 07:47

ExS, you're most welcome old chap. However:


As a result I'll never upgrade to a newer version of Firefox
I'm afraid this is untrue. Firefox LTS will automatically switch you to the next major LTS version at a certain time. Here is a handy flowchart:

https://mozorg.cdn.mozilla.net/media...iew.png?201406

If you want an alternative to Firefox, quite a good one is Waterfox, as it's 64-bit and therefore faster and more stable, and there are no forced upgrades; but it takes up a LOT of RAM! (1gb with 3 tabs open!)

ExSp33db1rd 9th Jun 2014 08:59

Booglebox


Firefox LTS will automatically switch you to the next major LTS version at a certain time.
Don't mind that if the LTS version works as well as the present one.

KelvinD

HSBC Offshore, someone in the I.o.M. I accept that sending stuff back and forth to them - like the Secret Word and the "token" - by snailmail to / from the bottom of the World does take some time, but it was last September when I started the trail!

The Voice on the Telephone just said that they had reports that customers were reporting staring at a blank page, as I was, i.e. it had logged me in OK, then "obtained data" from HSBC, and the progress wheel thing had stopped rotating, but the page was totally blank, no logo, no data, zilch. and in every case reported the customer had been using Firefox or Chrome, and he suggested that I used I.E. which worked straight away, no problem.

What are you missing ? I had no problem with FFX until about a month ago, when I was prompted to download " the latest version" - can't remember the number I'm afraid. After that, having opened maybe 2 or 3 tabs, and attempting to open another, I got the message that Firefox was already open, and that I had to close it and re-open, or maybe even re-start my computer.

I couldn't work out how to close down Firefox, and always had to totally re-start my computer to continue my browsing, doing this every 30 minutes or so was somewhat irritiating - to put it mildly! Following the advice to instal the LTS version all came good again, and I had no repeat until I foolishly accepted a demand to upgrade again whilst scrutinising a "registry" repair site - not sure how that came up, but I initially fell for it. Eventually I went back to the LTS version and - so far - no repeat of the problems I faced.

I'm happy with Firefox at the moment, but if I continue to get hassled I'll go back to Chrome !

mixture 9th Jun 2014 09:14


there are no forced upgrades
Ahem... keeping your browser up to date is a good thing.

Booglebox 9th Jun 2014 10:00


Originally Posted by ExS
Don't mind that if the LTS version works as well as the present one.

You'll get the new UI... which is substantially different (and if you've been using FF29, you have seen it already).
More details here.


Originally Posted by mixture
Ahem... keeping your browser up to date is a good thing.

From a security perspective, yes, but that's another advantage of a 64-bit browser: way better security :cool:

From a usability perspective, not always. I have my Firefox pretty nicely configured to maximise screen real estate and stay productive / usable on my smallish laptop, and although I try not to abhor change too much, it seems this new UI doesn't really add anything and is just change for the sake of change, and another attempt by Mozilla to try to stay relevant in an age where what browser you use doesn't really matter for most people.

I will download it and play with it. Maybe it's customizable enough to keep me happy. :ooh:

vulcanised 9th Jun 2014 11:26


I have been using Firefox since it was first released

And before that, it was Firebird. Still got the download somewhere.

mixture 9th Jun 2014 17:10


but that's another advantage of a 64-bit browser: way better security
I can smell the smell of the fresh bull slurry that you've left underneath your seat.

Seriously ? Do you SERIOUSLY even remotely believe that ? FFS ! I despair ! :ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh: :ugh::ugh:

Booglebox 9th Jun 2014 19:59

Yep, I do. To elaborate, or perhaps clarify, IMHO probably the biggest security advantage is using 64-bit plugins e.g. Java and Flash.
Actually, rather puerile retorts aside, I would be quite interested to hear why you think I am wrong. After all, you're a knowledgable chap, and I may indeed be wrong! :}

mixture 9th Jun 2014 20:21


Yep, I do. To elaborate, or perhaps clarify, IMHO probably the biggest security advantage is using 64-bit plugins e.g. Java and Flash.
Utterly deluded. :rolleyes:

64-bit just means two things :
(1) the ability to address more memory (which is pointless with plugins, since they shouldn't be using 32-bit's worth of RAM let alone more !)
(2) Perform 64-bit operations (i.e. do stuff quicker)

Its an architectural difference. That is all.

As for the security .... think of it like the difference between a terraced house and a mansion, or a mini and a porsche .... i.e. there is none, both are equally vulnerable to robbery and vandalism. The same goes for 32 vs 64 .... both are equally as vulnerable to ****ty coding.... don't believe me ? take a look at how many updates Microsoft have brought out for Windows 7/8 64-bit ... case closed.


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