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Latearrival 1st Jul 2010 03:29

Internet issue
 
I'm on holidays and using a wireless connection. All of a sudden I can't get either Firefox or Explorer to connect to the Internet. I get a "Firefox has crashed..." etc. message as soon as I click on it. (My home page doesn't appear.) I also get "Explorer has encountered a problem..."

I can connect to hotmail and then to other sites once I'm on hotmail. Another computer in the same residence can connect to Explorer at the same time I can't.

The wireless connection is rated as "excellent" and seems to be fine. Everthing was working properly earlier today.

Any possible explanation or suggestions would be appreciated!

LA

Tarq57 1st Jul 2010 04:47

How on Earth do you get to hotmail if you can't open Internet Explorer or Firefox? Got another browser, just for hotmail?

What antivirus and firewall do you use?

Vitesse 1st Jul 2010 07:44

I had a similar problem with a desktop machine this week. It's wired to the router.

Email working fine, but no Internet. I re-installed Firefox and that worked fine. IE did not wake up, though. For some reason, I did not bother to reinstall that.

Latearrival 1st Jul 2010 12:15

Tarq57, I have AVG Free. As dumb as this sounds, I'm not really sure how I first managed to get into hotmail--I tried so many things...looked for installed programs that might take me to the Internet. But the interesting thing is that hotmail now seems to be linked to Outlook Express, which never worked before. I have always used hotmail exclusively on this computer.

Vitesse, I tried reinstalling Firefox but to no avail. It still tells me it crashes as soon as I try to open it.

This is one of the weirdest things I have experienced on my computer. In the meantime, I'll just keep hotmail open because then I can get to Pprune, and other sites like Google.

Tarq57 1st Jul 2010 12:21

Try downloading MBAM (free version) install it, update it, run a quick scan. Have it remove anything found. If it prompts for a reboot to complete removal, do so promptly. Post the details of anything found.

There are other tools that can be used, depending on the problem, such as LSPFix; you might want to flush the DNS cache. Easy way to do this is to right click the connections icon in the system tray, select 'repair'. The flush takes place as part of the repair, unless something doesn't want it to.

[edit] I guess you use the Windows firewall? That shouldn't be the source of the problem, if so.

Vitesse 1st Jul 2010 12:26


I tried reinstalling Firefox but to no avail.
Shame. Would have been an easy fix.

Good luck.

BOAC 1st Jul 2010 13:16

Late - I'm obviously (again) behind the drag curve here.:confused:

How does 'Hotmail' - which is 'linked to Outlook Express' - let you surf the internet?. Cna you describe exactly what happens when you visit Hotmail? Are you using Windows Live?

mixture 1st Jul 2010 13:40

Latearrival,

Maybe your Windows user profile has gone haywire.

Try creating a new profile and see how that goes.

Latearrival 1st Jul 2010 14:40

Tarq57, I clicked on the MBAM ink you kindly provided but since I can't get into Explorer, it wouldn't connect to the site.

BOAC, once I'm on hotmail, I can type an Internet address into the address bar and that's how I'm able to get on other sites. I've also discovered that I can get onto regular hotmail by typing the address of my homepage (Sympatico) into the hotmail version that I'm keeping open. Then I can get into my regular hotmail that way.

Everyone, I'm pretty close to being computer illiterate so that compounds the problem. I thought there might be an obvious solution or a quick fix but I should have known better...never my experience with computers. I have to leave this for a few hours since I am on holidays and can't dedicate most of the day to cursing my computer. Will play with it again later and report back if I make any progress.
Thanks very much for your input. Much appreciated!

LA

BOAC 1st Jul 2010 14:50

Late - it sounds to me as if you are ACTUALLY using hotmail through a browser! What does the top left of the screen say (normally a blue bar running across there).

Why not cut and paste Tarqs link into your 'address bar' and see what happens?

Latearrival 1st Jul 2010 22:37

Back in after trying to do some holiday stuff...

BOAC, at the moment, the blue bar says PPRuNe Forums-Reply to Topic-Microsoft Outlook.

It appears that I can get into Internet sites like PPRuNe and Google but not those that have any affiliation with Explorer or Firefox. For example, I received a stock alert from a site affiliated with Explorer but when I tried to click on the link to that site, it wouldn't open.

I did try to copy and paste Tarq's link into the address bar but it didn't open. So it appears that site has an affiliation that my computer doesn't like.

mixture,

Forgot to address your suggestion in my last reply. I'm not sure how to create a new Windows user profile. I also can't get into any Windows-related sites.

BOAC 2nd Jul 2010 07:34

It sounds as if something has altered a thing called 'file associations' on your machine - probably best left until you are back from hols and have more time to fix.

Anyone else concur?

Tarq57 2nd Jul 2010 08:02

I don't un-concur, but darned if I know. We'll have to find out for sure what program is being used to view hotmail, I guess.

BOAC 2nd Jul 2010 08:12

I have (but don't use) Outlook 2003 and I can access any site through the web address bar there, no restrictions (with the same 'blue bar' wording) - very odd.

F Associations for me are set for htm and html to Firefox.

Tarq57 2nd Jul 2010 08:19

But does the address then open a browser, or can you display a web site using Outlook?
Pardon my ignorance, I've never tried this.

BOAC 2nd Jul 2010 08:32

The latter - I'm also an 'Outlook Virgin'.:) NB You do need the web toolbar enabled.

LastCall 2nd Jul 2010 14:22

LateArrival

Sounds like you might have inadvertently changed a setting somewhere. If as you say the computer was working fine a day or two ago, then I suggest you try a system restore.

If you are using XP, click on:

Start > All Programs > Accessories > System Tools > System Restore, then select "Restore My Computer to an Earlier Time", then Click on "Next"

Use the calendar to choose a date & time a little prior to when your computer last worked properly, then select "Next" and it will ask you to confirm the restore point selection.

Click on "Next" and watch it do it's thing. As part of the process it will re-boot your computer, and when finished it will tell you if the restore process was successful or not.

If successful, after it has booted up, try the internet again.

Let us know what happened. If not successful there are one or two other things we can try.

Good Luck.......LC

Latearrival 2nd Jul 2010 15:49


It sounds as if something has altered a thing called 'file associations' on your machine - probably best left until you are back from hols and have more time to fix.
BOAC, that's what I've concluded. I need a few hours of uninterupted time to curse at my computer.

LastCall, thank you very much for the suggestion and detailed instructions. I will try that at the first available opportunity and report back.

Thanks everybody!

BOAC 2nd Jul 2010 22:10

Late- take a 'rain check' before you just 'Restore' - it can be a bit of a 'shotgun' approach and you will lose settings and programmes that you have changed/installed since the date you select for the restore.

Senior Pilot 2nd Jul 2010 22:34

Gents,

Just to throw another cat amongst the canaries: I have had a very similar problem for nearly 3 weeks, with a range of websites inaccessible via Firefox or Safari yet Mail sometimes still works, and a ping to the offending site shows good connectivity. PPRuNe and online newspaper sites seem to be the worst!

I run Mac OSX10, and the issue is on two Macs connected to the same network. I've bought and installed a new modem (old one was due for replacement anyway) and a new Airport Express to extend the wireless coverage. Apple have spent a lot of time helping, as have my ISP, all to no avail. Data package loss seems to be a possible culprit, but what is causing it?

The 'outages' tend to be around 2300Z and 1100Z, I now just get away from the infernal machines and wait for the problem to resolve itself.

Until something positive fixes it :hmm:


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