xp limited user
Having been nagged (again) by our experts to use a non-admin account for everyday use I find I am unable to have Avast and ZoneAlarm run at log-on. No sign of them in the sys tray and with the exe's in the startup folder for the profile they only run if I swap the 'limited' for an 'admin' status. Right now I am on-line with no AV or Firewall!
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Use "SudoWin"
Sudo for Windows | Get Sudo for Windows at SourceForge.net See Using sudowin to grant administrator privileges in Windows or Google sudowin Works like a charm Mac |
Thanks Mac - downloading for a run now. Is that REALLY the only way to install and run any protection in a limited account? Seems a big *** up my MS (not the first.....)
Not surprised I have 'resisted' up to now:} EDIT: Installed, but a bit stuck on getting it running! Not a lot of help for simpletons. Have you use it? Your first link said 'file not found' and Google has produced nothing so far. |
Also see the forums at SourceForge.net: Sudo for Windows: Topics for Help Mac PS: This is SMHAM2.ORG! has a good simple tutorial. |
That last tutorial was definitely the best, but I am getting an 'unhandled exception' whenever I try to run it.
If I run command line I get a request for a passphrase which I have not set. I was amused by this from the PDF: ". Implementation Sudowin is a complex product that provides a simple solution to an intricate problem. Luckily for the end-user, implementing sudowin on a desktop is quite easy." I am stumped and unless there is another way to protect a limited user on-line I do not wish to take up your valuable time here - thanks for the stuff so far. I revert, I'm afraid, to admin user. |
I haven't got a copy of XP with me.
Can't you set the "run as administrator" flag when your logged in as administrator and then when you log it does. There should be a way of starting it as a service on startup with out all this buisness about sudo. Now is this user you are using a new user account or just the old one which you have reduced the previleges of? You might find with a brand new account it it will all work fine. |
Jock - thanks! That worked for Avast but I cannot get Zonealarm to similarly allow control to the limited user.
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Can you run them as a Service?
Sophos AV runs as a service on all my PCs, and has its own service account for this purpose. All our accounts are user-level only, and have no problems. SD |
Zonealarm has an option that it can be run on startup. You need to log in as the admin account and have a good look for it in the options.
Then it should start as a service. |
"If I run command line I get a request for a passphrase which I have not set."
Use you (now limited) account login as before Mac |
Avast has a service and is set to start auto. ZA does not. The option to start with Windows there is selected to no avail. I am quite frankly very near giving up and going back to relying on 3 or 4 'condoms' to protect me:)
Windows NEEDS something like Sudo (if only....). I can understand why the writer produced the prog as it is since he has 'donated it' to the world, but it needs support. MS should build it into the OS. I cannot set things like msconfig so that I can run it as a LU: I do not seem to be able to change folder view etc etc - I DO appreciate that is the whole point of 'limiting' access but why is there no way around the admin setting access for a LU via the OS? I appreciate all the help here, folks, but I am reverting to a 'sinner', I fear. |
If you have Windows defender and windows firewall you don't really need Zonealarm. Your Avast is doing 95% of your protection and those other 2 will do the rest and you also have proberly a firewall on your DSL router as well.
The fact you are running in a none admin account is worth far more in security than any other feature on your machine. Having to many devices scanning everything can slow your system down to a snails pace as well. I will bow to the others though as this windows7 machine is the first decent windows OS I have played with since NT4. All I have got on it is avast and windows firewall and Defender. I am running it in a normal user account though not the one which the installation though I should use. WHich I think is half the problem people follow the instructions and it leaves them in a admin account. If it rebooted like a linux OS forcing you into a normal user account it would save folk a heap of problems |
Configure things as an admin equivalent, then demote the account to User level when you have it right.
SD |
SD - I'm pretty sure I tried that and I think that it did not work as I hoped. I will try again. Is this any better in 7?
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Not sure about 7, TBH.
SD |
Never played with XP but so far (touch wood) win7 hasn't pissed me off yet unlike vista used to do daily
Its very linux-esk if you want to do something that requires admin rights in a normal user account it asks you for an admin password and away you go. If you want to run a program with admin rights again it asks for the password and it toddles off quiet happy. The compatability modes run really well as well. None of the cheap games I have tried to run have fallen foul yet. You can even turn the bitching off which says you system is insecure becuase you haven't tick the auto update box. |
News not good - again! Up to admin status, all set nicely, ZA, Avast running on boot, Classic folder view, file details, dorky sounds off, reset to limited status, reboot - that lovely MS tune again, ZA and Avast absent. I give up!
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