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hellsbrink 19th Mar 2011 12:23

Well, latest PCLinuxOs distro installed as a dual-boot, absolutely no issues with the wifi, starting to configure it to suit what I want. Am happy (so far)

The wifi issue must have been a Ubuntu one, so that won't get installed again anywhere.

Now it's time to start learning again since it's been a heck of a long time since I really did any DOS type things.......

Thanks for trying anyway, guys

Justiciar 6th Apr 2011 11:28

I have recently "converted" to Linux having had my computer trashed by a very virrulent virus late last year.

Everything appeared ok until a recent potentially catastrophic problem with a full root partition, which prevented me logging on with little or no warning. Having managed to solve the proble without knowing how I have to say that my experience is now rather jaded.

From an aviation perspective the obvious issue is there being very little available by way of aviation applications written for Linux. About the only one I can think of is Notam Plot. In terms of flight planning software NavBox will just about run under Wine, but nothing else will, especially Skydemon, which has to be the most advanced VFR planning software currently available.

Generally, achieving the same functionality as Windows 7 has been a chore. For example, getting the right version of Java to run Afpex took days. Open Office, whilst good, still has some bugs which cause problems and several times I have reverted to Windows to edit stuff.

So, whilst I like not having to constantly fend off virus attacks I find myself on the point of junking Linux on my dual boot laptop and returning to the Windows 7 fold.

mixture 6th Apr 2011 11:36


catastrophic problem with a full root partitio
oh...."rm -rf /" .... :cool:

Justiciar 6th Apr 2011 12:00


oh...."rm -rf /" ....
Does that not assume you know where the big files are and that you are prepared to loose them??

mixture 6th Apr 2011 12:55

Justiciar,

I suspect my leg pulling attempt may not have been detected by your radar....

Doing rm -r / would certainly result in a "catastrophic problem with a root partition" ... :cool:

Justiciar 6th Apr 2011 13:10

The penny has dropped. I should not meddle with things I don't understand and good job my lap top is at home and not in front of me:\

Any ideas on how to actually solve the problem when you cannot get more than the terminal?

le Pingouin 6th Apr 2011 14:09

Midnight Commander (mc) is an invaluable command line tool - a clone of Norton Commander, the DOS based file manager. You can use it to display directory sizes, select & delete or move multiple files, edit files, etc.

mixture 6th Apr 2011 14:15


Any ideas on how to actually solve the problem when you cannot get more than the terminal?
Apologies if I've missed something, what was the problem, I was under the impression you had solved it?

Justiciar 6th Apr 2011 14:45

well yes, but I don't know how or why :confused:

The root directory was full meaning that you can only get into the system via the terminal (what you actually get is a mesage saying that Gnome power manager is not installed correctly and you cannot then log into the desk top but can only get to the terminal using Ctrl-Alt-F1). There is no warning of this critical state approaching.

The key seems to be to free up space on the root directory by either moving or deleting files, but this did not seem to work. In the end I recall using a command which automatically gives a % increase in the size of the root directory but I cannot now trace what that was for future reference. So the key questions are: how do you stop this happening in the future and if it does happen what is a quick solution to the problem? (a trawl of the internet offers no clear solution).

AnthonyGA 8th Apr 2011 11:21


So, whilst I like not having to constantly fend off virus attacks I find myself on the point of junking Linux on my dual boot laptop and returning to the Windows 7 fold.
This mirrors the experience of most non-geek attempted converts to Linux, and illustrates some of the reasons why the OS has never made a dent in the desktop market.

Besides, anything that could faithfully emulate the Windows environment would also be vulnerable to Windows viruses, so if you need to run applications that are available only for Windows, then actually running Windows itself is the obvious solution.

izod tester 8th Apr 2011 12:09

Yup,

For me, there isn't a suitable Linux application which does the same as AutoRoute - so I have an XP virtual machine so I can run AutoRoute when I need to - without having to leave my Linux desktop.

sea oxen 22nd Apr 2011 09:28

Justiciar

You'll be delighted to know that you're not alone. Getting the partition sizes right a priori is something which few people get right every time once the system's been in use for a while, even in a commercial environment. Luckily, there are ways to get out of jail if things go TU, as you found out - du -k|sort -g, then rm that big download from r*dtube :)

I suggest that you keep gparted.and the system rescue cd in your toolbag. You're able to boot from these and resize if you need to. If you Giggle "linux disk space monitor script startup" you'll find a wealth of scripts to warn you if your space is running out.

Linux isn't for everyone - even not, as I suspect, Mrs SO. But as I have to fix the confounded thing when it breaks, she's crossing over to the dark side this weekend. Then I'll install Linux.

SO

rans6andrew 21st Oct 2011 12:26

Ubuntu 11 unstable
 
Earlier this week, my system decided to install Ubuntu 11 over the previously stable Ubuntu 10. It all seemed to go smoothly at the time but now I find that the system just freezes at random intervals and requires a hard reset to recover it. It has frozen at any time from partway through drawing the initial desktop to several hours of work later. This morning it froze just as it was trying to connect to our wireless network and it messed up the key.

I have not fetched/installed any new utilities and the previously installed stuff still works.

I have prompted it to check for updates every day just in case there was some "correction" issued. Today a few files updated and I have not seen any improvement.

I am not a Unix/Linux/Ubuntu user as such, so any help in a "use words of few sylables, slowly" way would be much appreciated.

Thanks for your interest,

Rans6....

Golden Rivet 21st Oct 2011 14:08

Running 11.10 without any problems....

It doesn't take long to do a clean re-instal.

Unlike windows it recognises all hardware and prompts for additional drivers. It virtually works straight out of the box.

green granite 21st Oct 2011 14:20


Unlike windows it recognises all hardware and prompts for additional drivers.
Windows not only recognises the hardware, it automatically goes and finds all the drivers for you. :E

Golden Rivet 21st Oct 2011 14:51

I run XP, Windows 7, Android and Linux on various devices around the house.

you are more than welcome to slag off Linux, but it works, and its free....

green granite 21st Oct 2011 15:38

Who slagged off Linux? I didn't, I merely pointed out that windows gets it's own drivers. :)

le Pingouin 21st Oct 2011 19:51

Rans6, is it 11.04 or 11.10? Do you know what video chipset you have? My guess is a flaky video driver.

Guest 112233 21st Oct 2011 20:03

Ubuntu 11.10
 
On this release, we seem to have lost the ability to micromanage the fonts - I find this a pain on my Asus - This could be a factor in your misery - OK I'm being a moaner here, but I did use the font management facilities on my notebook.

CAT III

rans6andrew 21st Oct 2011 20:17

I am on Ub 11.10 32bit. I don't know what the graphics chipset is, it was a fairly cheap graphics card when I built the system nearly 2 years ago. I don't do anything with intensive/high speed graphics and don't need anything expensive here.

I will try to find out which chipset it is tomorrow.

Can I interrogate the system to find this or must I have the hardware in bits?

Sometimes, just before it crashes/locks up, the sound goes off the rails, it may die by doing "the needle stuck....the needle stuck....." or it may just stop abruptly. Either way a hard reset is needed to clear it.

The hardware is very capable (Core I7 and 6 GB of ram at 2.8 GHz) and ran 10.something faultlessly for about a year. Would it not keep the installed drivers which were doing a good job.

Thanks for all,

Rans6Andrew


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