One for the FS2000 fans.......not!
 

767 for Fly! gets 100/100 rating from Flightsim.com!!!!!
http://www.flightsim.com/cgi/kds?$=main/review/pmdg.htm

Trust me, nothing that FS2k has comes close to the PMDG add-ons.
Do yourself a favour, you know it makes sense!!!

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'I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend, to the death, your right to say it' - Voltaire

Never thought I'd say this but FLY! blows FS2000 away...much, much better. Forget eye candy, I'd rather have a flight sim... :)

Anybody out there use x-plane, just been reading reviews on it and it seems OK, plus the price drop to 79US$ makes it a bit more affordable?

It's available now for 14.99 of your Great British pounds plus a free mag and cd with upodates and patches at http://www.justflight.com
Think I might just give it a go, free p&p in the UK.

From Avsim's PMDG forum (757/767 for Fly!)

Quote-
"I went 30 miles out, at 15000 ft. I shut down the engines via the fuel control switches, and started the APU running with its respective bleed air isolation valves open. I did not deploy the RAM-AIR turnine, yet, I still had hydraulic power all through the exercise. I maintained, or tried to at least, 250 knots on descent. I was going down at about 2000 fpm, with no drag added(weight was about 268K lb). I arrived at the outer marker about 5000 ft above the GS capture point, and thus had to circle once over the marker to lose some height. After return to inbound course, I had lost about 3000 ft, and slowed down to 200knots.I was still kind of high, so I put in a couple of notches of flaps, and lowered the landing gear. I had to pitch down a lot to make it to the runway, so I added flaps up to 15 deg, and controlled the airspeed via the spoilers/airbrakes. I maintained 175 knots all through final, with descent rates in between 3500 and 4000 fpm. The spoilers were out all through final. When about 300 ft AGL I retracted the spoilers and let that excess energy bleed through the flare. To my surprise, the flare was a non-event(bad inertia modeling?) and the pitch angle was 8 deg at most on touchdown; I used up almost all 9000ft of runway again though. With the descent rate attained, I was expecting something like a power stall, where my wings would stall due to disruption of laminar flow(forced), but the plane responded like a regular level out. I knew the structure could take it, but aerodynamically it should have been a different story, anybody disagree?
Well, I really did not have to mess with the upper panel much, and still maintained control, so I don't know if I did things right. I have my settings to full realism, so I guess I must have missed some other thing.

I'll have to say, I would NEVER want to be in a real airplane duplicating what I just simulated, I'm sure I'd be in diarrhea all the way down!

Regards,
Max " - Unquote

If you want a simulator, use Fly!....if you just want to fly pretty planes from the outside view use FS2000.......



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'I may disagree with what you have to say, but I will defend, to the death, your right to say it' - Voltaire

The thing I have found to be v. frustrating about Fly! is the controls. It's incredibly difficult to configure the controls the way you want them- the process iteself is simple, but the way the thing is presented is bad, very bad.

I also think the flight planner feature is a bit badly designed. too much emphasis on graphics rather than ease of use.

Converting from FS98 to fly! is difficult, but I should reckon that the results are worth it if you have a decent control input system.

Absolutely agree Wx Man, Fly is a more difficult sim that FS2k. I have found with FS2k that it is possible, with the right panel, and confuguring both the sim and the panel, depending on what you use it will work well. Very well.

There is in fact a 767 by Eric Ernst that has the full lot including the o/head panel and a good flight panel. Everything works. Start-up is exact, as is everything else. For FS2k there is a small add-on required to fix the font details, otherwise it is a perfect example. All 3 a/lands work too.

One of the problems with FS2k has been Microsoft's inexact patches. But with a bit of effort you can make even that work correctly. You can get the B767 panel from www.avsim.com OR www.flightsim.com OR from my site www.uksim.co.uk

Has anyone figured out how to file an IFR flight in Fly? The flight planner always seems to give me a VFR flight, with a 1200 squawk code (i.e. the US VFR version of 7000).

kopbhoy2:
Use "autotune radios " (Ctrl `) [that's the key left of 1 on the top row !] to bring up a menu - pick 5 : Flight Service Station. This brings up another menu of airfield codes - usually the top one will do, so press 1.
Now press ` to bring up the ATC R/T menu. Pick 1 : Open IFR Flight Plan.

When you go to Clearance Delivery, you will now get a random squawk for an IFR flight.

(totally unrealistic for the UK, but it works!)

[This message has been edited by Eric T Cartman (edited 25 August 2000).]

Cartman, thanks for the info! I'll give it a bash. :)