anti virus what is better?
Kaspersky 8.0 v AVG free edition,any thoughts ?
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I'm running AVG 8.0 free with no particular personal gripes.
Be advised that Kaspersky doesn't like Zonealarm (if you are running it) so I found I had to uninstall ZA for Kaspersky to install. |
I used to think AVG was pretty good until I loaded Avast.
It found about seven viruses (virii ?) that AVG let through. Now use Avast professional and find it pretty comforting. :ok: |
Being a mac fanatic I have to say it: Buy a mac and you dont have to worry about viruses anymore... why, there are none that does any serious harm...
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Just 2 points.
I installed Kaspersy after several years of using AVG, it didn't find anything but it slowed the PC down considerably and it locked up occasionally so I went back to AVG. A friend had been using Norton (automatically updated) for years then tried Kaspersky, his PC was riddled with viruses, worms, trojans, malware etc. |
Founder,
you missed the magic word 'yet' from your post try:- Malware authors target Mac emerging markets ? The Register for a warning, daughter uses macs and she's now paranoid:sad: VnV |
Try AVAST....I've never....(Touch Wood)...Had a virus pass through to my computer. It has however stopped many.....:ok:
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Comodo - install & forget.
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I got fed up with AVG 8 & went with Avira, after the last thread about this gave a few recommendations. I find it perfectly ok, but very slow on start up for botha vista & an xp machine. I would be interested in the observations of others.
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Another long-time user of Avast.
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Comodo - install & forget. Well, I quite like the firewall but I'm not going to be using their antivirus anytime soon. |
They all have their faults
I've used 'em all, currently using Fortinet (firewall and AV) and like it more than any of the others, but it is not free.
ALL anti-virus software FAILS to catch common viruses SOME of the time (check the penetration tests). So changing from one AV to another it would not be surprising to find something here or there that another has missed. As for the pl0nker who thinks he is safe on a Mac, grow-up and read-up some more. Perhaps the history of the internet worm might be a good idea for starters. Then perhaps read about the competition to hack into a mac...which lasted...hmmm - no longer than any other system. |
Another Avast vote - I loaded it onto a laptop that had a "fresh install" of XP SP3 and it found two Trojans, one of which had replicated itself a dozen times into other files.
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Another ex AVG user who's moved over to Avast!. And you might be interested in this blog.
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I down loaded AVG and let it loose on all five logical drives. Nothing, nada, nowt. If I'd paid, I'd want me money back....there'd have to be something wouldn't there?
Then I played with the tabs at the top. The two hour scan seemingly had found something. But when was it going to tell me? How hard have I got to work to screw information out of modern software. Don't answer that. F:mad:ing hard is the answer. {new thread started - SD} |
Sheeeesh, trying to get a Laser Jet 4 Plus driver for this XP Pro has been a total failure. |
Right.Will give AVAST a go
many thanks :ok: |
Originally Posted by Parapunter
(Post 4415515)
I got fed up with AVG 8 & went with Avira, after the last thread about this gave a few recommendations. I find it perfectly ok, but very slow on start up for botha vista & an xp machine. I would be interested in the observations of others.
Only problem i ever had was a false positive, which was easily spotted, reported and fixed the next day. |
tinpis
Things I find great about Avast: -It's helped keep my computer clean for about two years. -It's effective. -The forum membership is responsive and very helpful. -"boot-time scan". The not so brilliant (but definitely willing to live with it) -No scheduled scanning in the Home version -The interface navigation takes a bit of learning. Worth it, though. I think you'll be quite happy with it. Not to mention malware-free. Demand scanner is also recommended. All the AV's can occasionally miss one "on the day". Highly recommend MBAM and/or Superantispyware. Both (free or paid) antispyware applications, with a very good rep. |
I use Zone Alarm. It seems to update almost every time I log on. It is better than the others; don't know?
It naturally does on access scanning and I schedule a full scan weekly. It also runs anti-spyware but when I run another ASW it still finds things. I guess it depends on what is defined as spyware. |
Kaspersky 8.0 v AVG free edition,any thoughts ? There is no incentive for the free commmunity to provide rapid updates to cover new viruses (which appear more frequently than you may think !). The commercial guys have every incentive, if they are slow, people go to a competitor. Kaspersky and F-Secure are rumored to be some of the quickest in the business. F-Secure are good because they have multiple engines , and so more chance of finding stuff (one of their engines is Kapersky, funnily enough). |
There is no incentive for the free commmunity to provide rapid updates to cover new viruses (which appear more frequently than you may think !). The commercial guys have every incentive, if they are slow, people go to a competitor. As far as I can tell, the differences between free and paid-for versions tend to be features and capabilities, rather than core performance and updating. I am willing to be corrected, of course! SD |
Originally Posted by Saab Dastard
(Post 4420366)
As far as I can tell, the differences between free and paid-for versions tend to be features and capabilities, rather than core performance and updating.
SD |
Saab,
Interesting observation about the people who do both. However I think you've answered it in your second paragraph. The nitty gritty (e.g. scan engine etc.) is likely to pretty much be a mirror copy of the free version, as is the case with Linux and it's kernel and core components. What they will probably tag on for your money are a few extra bells and whistles, plus access to paid for technical support. But as you say, performance and update frequency are unlikely to change. It's the same thing that's happening with Linux. Most of the platform very similar between free and paid. What you pay the vendors $$$ for is the 24x7 tech support and vendor developed business class features (e.g. clustering, management etc.). |
Quite a good comparison table here and reasonably up to date (02 September 2008) :
Virus Bulletin : News - AV-Test release latest results AVG showing response time of 4-6 hours vs Kapersky at <2 and F-Sec at 2-4 or <2 depending on product version. |
Top tips for not getting viruses:
DO NOT use Internet Exploder, use FireFox DO NOT use Outlook Express, use Thunderbird NEVER double-click a file with a .exe, .bat, .cmd or .vbs extension unless you can 100% verify the source of said file USE the Windows firewall Set your Windows theme to look "different". Then you won't be fooled by fake dialogue boxes Buy a Mac Use Linux This laptop (hers), runs XP, with built-in firewall, has McAfee and a public IP address. It sits on the kitchen worktop, is never switched off, and has never had any virus problems. You can get the best AV in the world, but there's only so much it can do in the face of naive (stupid?) users who click everything in sight. |
DO NOT use Internet Exploder, use FireFox DO NOT use Outlook Express, use Thunderbird |
Trying Avast Home edition trial
Why did I thunk it were free?:uhoh: |
Why did I thunk it were free? |
It is free.
Are you referring to the "pro" version, above? |
Better make sure you got the right download.
(It needs yearly registration, too, which does not involve the exchange of money, just an email address.) |
Hey boys, not wishing to sound like a moderator, but if you're talking printers it might be a good idea to start a new thread (hint: other people who want to talk printers but not anti-virus might actually read your posts) . :ok:
Mixture, you want my job? :) Done when I had a spare moment. SD |
These aren't top tips, they're personal opinions. Microsoft have traditionally put security way down the priority list. They're changing, thank God, but in a lot of instances (eg. Windows) they've gone so far down a particular road it makes it impossible to turn back. The Windows model of monolithic kernel and every single service running with system privileges is pure stupidity in the internet era... but as we know that's not the environment it was designed to run in. They can't go back; the break in backwards compatibility would kill their biggest customers. Apple were damn lucky to have got away with completely trashing their OS and moving to BSD; but due to the sheer size of MS they could never consider such an option. Windows 7, as it's known, it alleged to introduce big changes and break backwards compatibility. If that's true, they could fundamentally change Windows and make it something suitable for the internet age. But if they get it wrong, it could bury them. Noone's perfect, but Firefox and Thunderbird are an infinitely better choice for general web and email than the Microsoft offerings. |
Mixture, you want my job? Done when I had a spare moment. SD |
The helpdesk calls related to infections from OE users when compared to TB users stands at 9:1. [I am a TB & Firefox user.] |
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