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Old 4th Jun 2018, 09:19
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Help, what have I done wrong?

When I try and enter a new e-mail address and try to enter the@ symbol I actually get a " instead.
To get the @ symbol I have to click shift" and to get the " symbol I have to click shift@ key.
Shift hash gives me a £ sign instead of the hash symbol and there are a couple of other false symbols.

What have I done????? The keyboard is set up for NZ English and has been since it was new.

I have just looked at "The on screen keyboard" and it looks like my normal keyboard has somehow become a copy
of that one in regards to the symbols.

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Old 4th Jun 2018, 10:31
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I managed to get some advice and did the following and it worked !!!

You should do following -

Right click on Windows Start > Windows Powershell (Admin)
Copy and paste below and Enter in Powershell
Set-WinUserLanguageList en-NZ

This will make other languages disappear. (In case, you want to add again or other languages, you can add again from language settings)

Source - https://www.tenforums.com/windows-updates-activ...
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Old 4th Jun 2018, 11:56
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How does NZ English differ from Oz or UK English?
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Old 4th Jun 2018, 13:03
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You'd probably got "English (United States)" selected in Windows.

If you're on Win10, look on the lower menu bar, click then select "Language preferences". Change it in the menu page that appears.
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Octane I am not sure of the exact difference apart from the £ $ sign difference?
ShyTorque The language was not set on U.S. English it was still set on N.Z. English but the keyboard didn't work as I wanted.
After doing the change as suggested ( see post 2 above ) the keyboard was working as it had been a couple of hours before it
went wrong. I suspect it was something to do with a Windows update that self downloaded.
As Exspeedbird and a few others say "Why can't MS leave it alone" when it works.
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Why can't MS leave it alone" when it works.
I can’t recall ever being in that position - at least not since I loaded Windows 95 from a pile of floppy disks....
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It's been a while since I've played with Windows systems, but issues like this one used to be caused by having multiple keyboard layouts installed on your system. Apart from the language setting (which obviously controls the language of the interface) there is also a keyboard language setting and if you have more than one installed, you can switch between them by hitting a key combination. People may inadvertantly use this key combination and end up with a misconfigured keyboard. My solution was to go into the 'language' settings and remove all but the correct keyboard language. If you want, you can do the same for the interface language.

This used to work this way up until Windows 7, where my knowledge ends, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was still present in the current incarnation of the OS.

Windows 95 from floppy disks? I may still have the disks with Windows for Workgroups 3.11 somewhere, the question is if I've got MS-DOS 6.22 as well....
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When I went to NZ on a 4 week holiday, I found their English to be quite like English English. Apart from the Welsh (any countryside bits) and Scottish (Dunedin) bits, of course.

The same jokes about Aussies, of course.
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Old 7th Jun 2018, 05:52
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Not a great surprise really AO.
NZ is as English as it gets outside the UK in many ways. In the 70's even TV was a diet of Coronation St (still on), Basil Brush and Dr Who etc. The phone boxes were the same, even the emergency number, 111. I'm guessing back then many people would have had relatives of English origin, in my case Grandparents and Dad. The classic English roast was a weekend treat. Yorkshire pudding, yum. (can never forget the roast aromas wafting through the house). Most cars were English as were the books I read as a kid...
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...and many of those 70's tv programmes are still being shown, together with antiques roadshow, northern police series (can't remember the name). As the old joke goes.."We're landing in new Zealand, please put your watches back 30 years."
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Old Fogies

The old fogies among us will recall that you can get any character using the Alt key and number pad - this is very awkward on some laptops but OK on keyboards with actual number pads.

£ = [Alt]156
@ = [Alt]64

I have used this often enough over the decades that I remember 156, and of course @ is the last character before A which is 65.

On my present laptop with number pad and Windows 7 it is essential to ensure that Num Lock is on. I am not sure that is always the case.

Now just remind me one more time - what day is it?
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Originally Posted by jimjim1
The old fogies among us will recall that you can get any character using the Alt key and number pad - this is very awkward on some laptops but OK on keyboards with actual number pads.

£ = [Alt]156
@ = [Alt]64

I have used this often enough over the decades that I remember 156, and of course @ is the last character before A which is 65.

On my present laptop with number pad and Windows 7 it is essential to ensure that Num Lock is on. I am not sure that is always the case.

Now just remind me one more time - what day is it?
Aaaah, you must remember my old friend Ascii?
What a character he was, he always used to knock around with Hex and Octal.

But don’t mention Bin he was a bit strange, always wrote everything from right to left.

Hey Ho.
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Originally Posted by Nervous SLF
When I try and enter a new e-mail address and try to enter the@ symbol I actually get a " instead.
To get the @ symbol I have to click shift" and to get the " symbol I have to click shift@ key.
Shift hash gives me a £ sign instead of the hash symbol and there are a couple of other false symbols.

What have I done????? The keyboard is set up for NZ English and has been since it was new.

I have just looked at "The on screen keyboard" and it looks like my normal keyboard has somehow become a copy
of that one in regards to the symbols.
Pressing ctrl + shift (exactly in this order - pressing shift while holding ctrl down) may solve such problem as well.
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What needs to be done, is set your keyboard to US English, your language can be your region, ie English Australia.

Its in the region settings, change keyboard
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Originally Posted by jimjim1
The old fogies among us will recall that you can get any character using the Alt key and number pad - this is very awkward on some laptops but OK on keyboards with actual number pads.

£ = [Alt]156
@ = [Alt]64

I have used this often enough over the decades that I remember 156, and of course @ is the last character before A which is 65.
For me to get the £ sign it is = Shift/Ctrl/U and then a3

Ah the joys of linux...
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........ even the emergency number, 111
???? Isn't / wasn't the English number 999 ???

As the old joke goes.."We're landing in new Zealand, please put your watches back 30 years."
Wasn't it .... "Put your watches forward 2 (or as appropriate ) hours and back 30 years"

and the shops still close at 5.00 pm and Saturday afternoon. ( Supermarkets excepted )
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I have a Spanish laptop. The keyboard has @ and " on the number 2 button along the top not on the numbers pad on the right.
For @ I press Alt Gr and 2. Try it, might help.
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Has the IP address for your Internet Service Provider (ISP) changed. Mine was changed after a modem reboot from a UK one to a 'BT Americas' IP address, which caused all sorts of interesting problems. Firstly a goodly number of retail sites started giving me prices in dollars, then I couldn't access sites such as BBC iplayer (wrong country). Then a lot of time controllers on my home network decided to change to EST (US Eastern Standard Time), and my keyboard declared UDI and changed to a US set up - that really confused me as despite changing the keyboard back to UK English it wouldn't. I eventually found I had to go into Time and Language settings to get back to UK English!!!
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Because of the shortage of IP addresses many batches of them are being reallocated. They were originally allocated to one location, but have been taken over by another.

Plusnet appear to have acquired many from Venezuela and from parts of the US. They claim the addresses have had their new locations re-registered, and say that many businesses don't update their information. Hence ebay may accuse you of being in another country and display incorrect postage or airlines will direct you to their website based upon the original IP address location rather than the newly allocated one.

The solution I use is to keep resetting the router until a "genuine original UK" IP address appears. It's pot luck each time and can take me between 10 and 20 resets .
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ALL OF THIS WAS RECOVERED WITH THE Restore Auto-Saved Content. Good show!!!!

"@"@"@"@" Alt shift is the usual toggle. This is the UK US pair.

As is #£#£# I leave it at the US setting that I got used to in the USA. It was typing dialogue and the quotes " roll off the right hand so easily." Mind you, it's a PITA to type a £ - Wadda he say above. £ Oh, yes. Alt 156 That's easier for a one off £

æ There's my famous diphthong. Alt æ Cums'a writing about dæmons a lot.
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