Wife's HP laptop dead. Life won't be worth living.
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Best idea?
Dearest Rivets.
My suggestion would be;
a) Place machine in the bin.
b) Proceed to 'The Victory'.
Job done.
390
(For info the Victory is a place where Captain Rivets is known to consume beer from time to time)
My suggestion would be;
a) Place machine in the bin.
b) Proceed to 'The Victory'.
Job done.
390
(For info the Victory is a place where Captain Rivets is known to consume beer from time to time)
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Might be of no use, but I had a very similar set of symptoms with a Dell laptop. It turned out to be no more than a sticky switch that normally shuts off the laptop if the lid is closed. Trace of switch cleaner and all was well!
What was really on odd on my DV6152, was that on one attempt some months after it packed up, it did come back to life.
Subsequent attempts were back to the two short bleeps and a long one (I think). Maybe a look at the solder joints under a microscope is required?
Subsequent attempts were back to the two short bleeps and a long one (I think). Maybe a look at the solder joints under a microscope is required?
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390 !! Computer in bin, tickets being printed out, and will expect the Chablis to be chilled on my arrival. Aaaah, and fish and chips. Why the heck did I leave? Just dreaming, I have to take over the g-parenting tasks now the Rivetess is heading your way.
Okay, finished a writing session at 03:00 this am, so will allow a bit more time on futile gestures.
Yes, thinking laterally about other possibilities. Lid switch? Have to say I hadn't thought about that.
Hours musing over how to get serious heat in the tiny gap under the daughterboard, then crush it down and keep permanent pressure on with the heat sink. Trouble is, the fan end seems to float until the case is on. Nowhere to really get accurate downward force from.
Proops? Well, I went past there one night, and having been told it had closed, at first refused to look. I peeked through slitted eyes. If my navigation wasn't too alcohol-modified, it twern't there.
I'll look at that link later.
I got two protractors there. Did all my exams with one of them, and still doing woodwork with the other. 1/= each.
Okay, finished a writing session at 03:00 this am, so will allow a bit more time on futile gestures.
Yes, thinking laterally about other possibilities. Lid switch? Have to say I hadn't thought about that.
Hours musing over how to get serious heat in the tiny gap under the daughterboard, then crush it down and keep permanent pressure on with the heat sink. Trouble is, the fan end seems to float until the case is on. Nowhere to really get accurate downward force from.
Proops? Well, I went past there one night, and having been told it had closed, at first refused to look. I peeked through slitted eyes. If my navigation wasn't too alcohol-modified, it twern't there.
I'll look at that link later.I got two protractors there. Did all my exams with one of them, and still doing woodwork with the other. 1/= each.
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The daughter-board is surrounded by a bead of red shiny stuff that's as hard as epoxy and does not melt. I imagine it's an HP fix for the problem, and why this batch is not on their list.
I felt defeated by this, as all my plans revolved around removing it, so I heated the D-boad with an iron in several places, while pressing down hard. I then made an ally block to replace the blue rubbery stuff. The idea is it's thicker/solid and will press down on the chip - flexing the d-board minutely from the red stuff's hold.
I did a very hurried throw-together, and lo, it came on line - up to BIOS stage. (no keyb or HD.)
So, not counting my chickens, as I feel I may just have touched on some other fault, but we,ll see when I get some paste and rebuild it properly.
I felt defeated by this, as all my plans revolved around removing it, so I heated the D-boad with an iron in several places, while pressing down hard. I then made an ally block to replace the blue rubbery stuff. The idea is it's thicker/solid and will press down on the chip - flexing the d-board minutely from the red stuff's hold.
I did a very hurried throw-together, and lo, it came on line - up to BIOS stage. (no keyb or HD.)
So, not counting my chickens, as I feel I may just have touched on some other fault, but we,ll see when I get some paste and rebuild it properly.
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Mr Optimistic said in the Thermal Compound thread.
(I'll close that one to save hogging bandwidth.)
Yep, with the wedge in, one end was minutely up. Only a rubber type compound would fill this gap. Totally crap design as the entire fan and copper bar are one lump and that would have to be perfect to lie flat. That could never happen.
I've even toyed with the idea of pulling the other side down with a nut and bolt, but even an 8 BA would be a tad large, so didn't.
All pasted up, and pulled down by the fit in the case. All done perfectly, and now it doesn't go again. Did go once or twice since rebuild, but that's all. One is being tried.
Sort of losing hope. Just can't find the indeterminacy, and it could of course still be the graphics chip.
I've wasted hours on it, but in the old days I'd never be beaten, but now things are so . . . conditional. Even the ribbons to the speaker trim have to be in, making it so hard/delicate to work on.
On one of the runs where it did go (since the careful rebuild) the fan stopped and the screen went black as the power-button/speaker trim was moved. Testing the ribbons and the really skinny wires to the power-button, have produced nothing. Just coincidence I guess.
Better than playing FreeCell I suppose.
(I'll close that one to save hogging bandwidth.)
What gap? there must be no visible gap.
Yep, with the wedge in, one end was minutely up. Only a rubber type compound would fill this gap. Totally crap design as the entire fan and copper bar are one lump and that would have to be perfect to lie flat. That could never happen.
I've even toyed with the idea of pulling the other side down with a nut and bolt, but even an 8 BA would be a tad large, so didn't.
All pasted up, and pulled down by the fit in the case. All done perfectly, and now it doesn't go again. Did go once or twice since rebuild, but that's all. One is being tried.
Sort of losing hope. Just can't find the indeterminacy, and it could of course still be the graphics chip.
I've wasted hours on it, but in the old days I'd never be beaten, but now things are so . . . conditional. Even the ribbons to the speaker trim have to be in, making it so hard/delicate to work on.
On one of the runs where it did go (since the careful rebuild) the fan stopped and the screen went black as the power-button/speaker trim was moved. Testing the ribbons and the really skinny wires to the power-button, have produced nothing. Just coincidence I guess.
Better than playing FreeCell I suppose.
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great read!
Hi
Well it was entertaining reading your exploits into the world of a knackered cpu fan!
Ebay replacements £15.00 1.5 hours labour and jobs a good'n............unless you've never replaced one before!
Most HP laptops end up being binned or the owner gets charged large amounts of hard earned dollar to fix it.
How did this one end, bin?
thanks again for a great read, i know how you feel : )
Well it was entertaining reading your exploits into the world of a knackered cpu fan!
Ebay replacements £15.00 1.5 hours labour and jobs a good'n............unless you've never replaced one before!
Most HP laptops end up being binned or the owner gets charged large amounts of hard earned dollar to fix it.
How did this one end, bin?
thanks again for a great read, i know how you feel : )
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Top of the suspect list is the interface between the Nvidia's daughterboard and the motherboard. Point-six mm balls of solder indeed.
This soldering system was designed by a tree-full of monkeys - almost certainly a lower species. Then they picked from the ones that had fallen out of said tree, making use of a sub-selection that had fallen on their heads. This group no doubt gained a liking for wearing hats with little propellers on the top, and have the need to wear huge bottle lenses in their glasses. Finally, they picked out the ones that showed a natural dislike - nay hatred, of humans.
Breathe deeply . . .
I ripped it apart again last night. With great care and X15 mag, I can just see the little balls in a gap of the red stuff - and they are almost spherical. There is no sign at all of wetting/running of the solder. I have no doubt the contact surfaces are, in part at least, glued together with dried flux. I'm right back to getting that red stuff off and starting again. Just have to resist all temptation of dashing it to the ground and jumping on it.
This soldering system was designed by a tree-full of monkeys - almost certainly a lower species. Then they picked from the ones that had fallen out of said tree, making use of a sub-selection that had fallen on their heads. This group no doubt gained a liking for wearing hats with little propellers on the top, and have the need to wear huge bottle lenses in their glasses. Finally, they picked out the ones that showed a natural dislike - nay hatred, of humans.
Breathe deeply . . .
I ripped it apart again last night. With great care and X15 mag, I can just see the little balls in a gap of the red stuff - and they are almost spherical. There is no sign at all of wetting/running of the solder. I have no doubt the contact surfaces are, in part at least, glued together with dried flux. I'm right back to getting that red stuff off and starting again. Just have to resist all temptation of dashing it to the ground and jumping on it.
