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AeroDiaz 15th Sep 2009 18:14

COPA Rumour
 
I´ve just heard from "a guy who knows a guy" in COPA that the spaniards are not doing so well ... wich means that some of them are going to "leave" the company soon.



Anyone´s got some info on this?





DÍAZ

mustang06 15th Sep 2009 20:23

Me too...
 
I’ve got the same rumour from a guy who also knows a guy.
You can buy a Type Rating but you can’t buy experience and good CRM.

Mustang.

dieana 16th Sep 2009 13:59

Yes, I have heard the same thing abuout spanish guys. Some of them are Iberia Captain´s son and they believe they are in Spain and there will be no problem with their behavior, but they are in America (NO DADY´s LAND).
Time will tell us if there is a punishment to these guys.

emirmorocan 18th Sep 2009 00:15

They are like that everywhere. Impossible for them to live far from Spain.

atila_101 18th Sep 2009 05:05

Dear Enirmorocan......

At the beginning I thought as you, that for spaniards is hard to stay away from home and from mum and dad, but then I met some of them working abroad and had to change my mind, so if these guys in COPA are not doing well I don't think thats because they cannot enjoy a "sangría" or a "paella"...

cheers....

Schickfuss 22nd Sep 2009 17:47

Copa
 
I work for an airline in central america ,I am trying hard to get in to Copa ,the Training Manager is a friend of mine ,he wrote me that 59 pilots from the embraer are going to be upgraded to the 737NG ,and the españolitos are finishing their duty ,the payed in american flyers for the atp hours in Copa ,after they logged 1500 hours they are leaving the to spain,the deal was they flew for free ,only perdiem until they got their hours ,that is really bad because I have many panamenian pilots who are on the row to Copa and they are waiting until this scum leaves the country ,they performed really bad I also have 3 friends of mine that are flight introctors there ,they wrote to me that they are flying 737 NG SP ,single pilot !!! because this papi boys only think in la fiesta ,meanwhile there is pleople who really neeeds the job or legally has more rights to be there ...try you to get a job in Spain ...even paying ...but here in Central america as you see is real ...BAD FOR COPA and it image as a company ...but changes are coming SOON !!! Freiherr von Schickfuss

AeroDiaz 23rd Sep 2009 03:40

Schickfuss, Willkommen an Bord!!!

Thanks for posting all that information.

I was also part of the Grupo TACA (La Costeña), until november ´08. I´d like to fly for COPA but I need to build up my Multi-PIC time.

Now, about the "fiesteros":

1-If the first group of spaniards started flying last year ( around june?) then I think they´ve logged around 800-900 hrs up to this point. Am I right?.

2-What do your friends say about a second group of pilots coming from American Flyers next year?. Is COPA going to say: OLEEE!!! ???


Bis später!!

Díaz


P.S.Good luck on your job interview in Qatar. Be advised, they´ll be asking you questions about the JAR´s. A friend of mine was ready only for the FAR´s and failed. (former TACA´s A320 f/o)

Heading090 23rd Sep 2009 19:20

I agree........ please we don't need kids paying for flying....... Instead,we need to get paid for flying!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:=

Immigrant 24th Sep 2009 17:03

2Schickfuss


I work for an airline in central america ,I am trying hard to get in to Copa
I hope you will NEVER be here. :=
We have enough sh&$@t here :mad:

AeroDiaz 24th Sep 2009 17:33

Relax immigrant, relax!!!.

The most qualified pilot will be getting the job... or the one with US$41,500.00 in his pockets (if we talk about COPA). But guess what? NOT ANYMORE!!! according to the information we are reading here, now everybody will have a chance.

Immigrant, you are also looking for a job in different countries man!!!. Does the word KARMA mean something to you?... Gosh!!!, give us a break!.

There´s nothing to worry about if you are a good and professional pilot... are you?.

Chill!!!


DÍAZ

Immigrant 24th Sep 2009 20:45

AeroDiaz

Aires, Colombia

I don't know how the two spaniards got the job down there.
AeroDiaz

I´ve just heard from "a guy who knows a guy" in COPA that the spaniards are not doing so well ... wich means that some of them are going to "leave" the company soon.
AeroDiaz

try you to get a job in Spain
Something personal against Spain people?????? .... ancient history :confused:

Just curiosity :*

chock2chock 24th Sep 2009 21:10

naaahhh. Im pretty sure theyre just hatin':rolleyes:

AeroDiaz 26th Sep 2009 04:30


It seems like I hurt someone´s feelings eh?.

Don´t hate me Immigrant!!!, I´m only telling the truth. Not like you, manipulating my posts and trying to put words in my mouth (the third quote on your post is not even mine!) The other two quotes are not reflecting any xenophobic and/or insulting attitude, like yours. And you know, I have very good friends from Spain, pilots who are members of PPpruNe. So your attempt to make me look like YOU has failed.

Be a gentleman and apologize to
Schickfuss.

Immigrant, please don´t reply to this post
.

And good luck on your job hunt, you´re gonna need it.

Immigrant 27th Sep 2009 03:40

AeroDiaz

I´ve just heard from "a guy who knows a guy" in COPA......
AeroDiaz

according to the information we are reading here.....

I´m only telling the truth
:yuk: :eek: :ok:

P.s.
AeroDiaz
(the third quote on your post is not even mine!)

Schickfuss

try you to get a job in Spain

the "españolitos" are finishing their duty

until this "scum" leaves the countr
AeroDiaz

Schickfuss, Willkommen an Bord!!!
:D :ok:

:mad:

chock2chock 1st Oct 2009 01:37

Anyway, back on track .... information I got from Human Resources last week, It is current and Accurate:

1) Copa is a Multinational Crew operated company

2) Official minimums 500 hours ICAO License (No preference of origin JAA FAA...etc) English Minimum Level 4 ICAO

3)Main Priority is hiring Panamanians for now. But in the coming years they would not discount the fact that they may need to hire foreigners

4) With their latest Aircraft order they expect to recieve on avreage of 5 a/c per year from 2012

5) Agreement with American Flyers has atthis moment not been renewed.... no knowledge of wether it will be in the future.

AeroDiaz 1st Oct 2009 06:16

Chock2chock: :D I knew that my source was good!. Check this out: American Flyers - Programa Primer Oficial de COPA Airlines
Thanks and keep in touch.
Now to keep the flow of good info on this forum:

- What are the requirements for a license convalidation in Panama?. How long does the process take?. Costs?.

- Now we know that COPA does not give preference to any foreign license in particular. How about the Authority?. Is the convalidation process faster for holders of a license issued in a latinamerican country?. I already asked this questions to the authority but I haven´t received a reply.

- Could someone tell me if the form found on this link: Autoridad Aeronautica Civil is the one to start the convalidation process?. Is this the first step?, Am I missing something?.

Meanwhile, I´ll be updating my resume in COPAs HR website. Recursos Humanos - Copaair.com


DÍAZ

delsur 5th Oct 2009 13:51

Serguramente ustedes no son de Panama, para que sepan el resentimiento es para con todas las nacionalidades


si consiguen pasar los examenes,

welcome to the club!

Airliner777 9th Oct 2009 02:36

AeroDiaz you have a PM. :)

Almendrudo 9th Oct 2009 14:31

Delsur,
I know some panama pilots. Like the song says
" We All Know That People Are The Same Where Ever We Go
There Is Good And Bad In Ev'ryone,
We Learn To Live, We Learn To Give
Each Other What We Need To Survive Together Alive."

If you go to middle east you will be an expat.
Boundaries are for countries not for people.

AeroDiaz 14th Oct 2009 02:22

Just to keep the fire alive...


http://www.sipac-panama.com/web/

Conferencia de Prensa SIPAC
El pasado 12 de junio se efectuó una conferencia de Prensa en el local del SIPAC, a la cual asistieron medios escritos, radiales y televisivos al local del SIPAC, donde los miembros de la Junta Directiva, denunciaron una vez más a la Autoridad de Aeronáutica Civil (AAC), ya que esta institución por medio de sus representantes legales realizaron una modificación al RAC, que permite a los Pilotos Extranjeros convalidar sus licencias por medio de la página web y obtener permiso para laborar en nuestro país, perjudicando a decenas de pilotos Panameños que están desempleados.



Díaz


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