Avianca employment

[allatp]

ElGringo, hello there!!

Have you met Paul Rodriguez Sardi? He used to fly for AVianca and then went to Cathay. I've been trying to get a hold of him for quite some time.

Cheers

AA

[pablomedellin]

pablo medellin

hi i used to be a flight attendant for avianca and sam from 1990 to 1992 i've met a lot of people there currently i am attending mount saint antonio college in san bernardino california and next year i will finish my flight training with only 250 hrs tt of course i was born in colombia i was educated there and i have been in the united states since 1995 do you think they would prefer pilots from guaymaral with litle training as opossed to someone who trained in the united states ?

[Desert_Storm]

Hi Allatp!

You can contact paul on this e-mail address: [email protected].

Cheers!

[allatp]

Pablomedellin.
If you encounter any trouble joining Avianca, you can always try with Aires. I know that Aires have hired FOs above their 40s.
Good luck!!!!!!

AA

[allatp]

DesertStorm,
Thanks a lot for the info, take care.

Cheers!!!!!!!!

AA

[pablomedellin]

work in the airline industry again

thank you very much for the info i did not know AIRES had that kind of policy i guess there is always an opportunity for people like me with very little experience i know i am not in my 20's anymore but at leats if i can get a taste of what is like for a while i will be happy with that .. on the other hand for those of you who want to fly for AVIANCA LET ME TELL YOU that as far as experience it is a great experience , but like one of our fellow pilots said thet working environment is a disgrace some old school pilots still think we are in the era of the 1800's were we had slaves and all that , when i was working there as a flight attendant my working experience with a lot of pilots were good but at the same time i could see some things i did not like for example CRM did not exist and i believe despite of the fact that most of the pilots now have been through some sort of training still is an ISSUE , at the time also most of the new pilots were family related to other pilots who send their sons or daughters to a local flight school and the knowledge of ENGLIGH was very poor it was kind of funy some flight attendants spoke more english than the pilots the benefits were good MEDICAL,DENTAL,VISION however live in colombia is like live in the U.S.A eveything is expensive unless like me you have relatives or a house you got to have some decent money to start , now to get into the airline for me was easy because i knew at the time someone who was very good friends with the president of AVIANCA now evething is not about how much experience you have flying is who you know at least in COLOMBIA here in the US is difficult because here they apply the full extent of the law there is easier in a lot of things if you can get the right connections and the right people it is sad to know that there is not a pilot union anymore when i was flying i was based in BARRANQUILLA it was like a family small base at the time i met a fella name THOMAS JONUSAS COLOMBIAN AMERICAN very nice guy also the other old school , captains one of them was arrested in BOGOTA with possesion of some Kilos he was a 747-200 instructor i also used to work for SAM there i met ALGIS VISNIESKAS great fella and in 1993 may you remember the HK-2422 a Boeing 727-100 that crashed in the Abejorral mountain 132 people killed i flew in that plane to GUATEMALA a week before with same flight engineer and I remember we were drinking whiskey and our theme of conversation was aircraft accidents unfortunately also safety is a concern some pilots were coming out of the gate with some maintenance issues since we were not regulated by FAA people made fun of this things anyways that was my experience i hope this will be of help i am not saying do not go i say if you are young , do not know the language and want to try send everything to hell and try , it is the perfect place for everything because people in colombia are warm and believe me even if you are a total stranger , people will be like family .

[csp(ex-cmx)]

Avianca

Hi to all,

Well... people talks a lot and most of the times from frustation, Avianca is one of the best airlines in the region, and its standars are well above the average in the world, I would sugest that if any of you has the chance to fly there, do not even think, just grab it.
I would like to know one airline without ases among the captains and/or copilots .
The money is not the best, but look around first and put in a balance: the fleet, the experience to get, the good will, etc, and then make your choice.
Good luck to the ones with chances, and my deepest condolences to the rest.
For the record I do not fly with Avianca.

[pablomedellin]

for avianca pilots only

Hi storm in those 14 years that you flew for AVA where you based in Bogota ? did you get to meet some pilots from barranquilla ? i'd like to know if you are from that group of first officers graduated in 1990 or 1991something like that , at the time ava still had the Boeing 727-100 , 727-200 , 707, 747 and they were just making negotiations to lease or purchase the md-83 .is good to know what all these guys are doing with their lives ,how did they call you , because you know in ava everyone has names no offense to you of course ..and how are you doing now that you fly for the emirates ? besides the pay .

also for those of you out there who are interested to fly in Colombia AIRES is hiring first officers this is the website :http://www.aires.com.co/website/conC...DYV88JMBU%2bog
PILOTOS – COPILOTOSPiloto Comercial con Licencia Vigente en Airbus A-320, Dash-8 100/200/300/400. Indispensable Visa Americana vigente.

[csp(ex-cmx)]

Hi again

I said: I do not fly for Avianca(present time), I did not said: I never flew for Avianca(past time). And in fact I did, thats why I know what I am saying, and your reply just confirms my point.
Sorry for your own bad experince, but many others had a very positive and constructive one.
But right now you are having what you wanted, so "may be" those years were not wasted at the end, and helped to put you where you are...................

[csp(ex-cmx)]

Jajajajaja

Desert_storm:
It is time for me to stop answering your smart arguments . When it comes to low education comments it is better to leave.........
Last thing, I left the company for other reasons(country security) than the airline itself, and I am not going back because I am making a very good living where I am, Europe is fantastic.
Better luck with your present employer.....

[pablomedellin]

viejos recuerdos

yeah my friend my e-mail is [email protected]

thank's bud

[memphx]

avianca flying

The original post is a few years old but I have been interested in working for them for a little while. I would love to move there and get the experience. I have about 1100 hrs 750 PIC and I'm just wondering:
1) Are they hiring now in 2010?
2) Is it possible to work for them even if you don't have the Colombian citizenship or passport? I am a US citizen born and raised.

Your answers and feedback would be invaluable.

Thanks,

Memphx

[Hunter58]

Do you speak fluent Spanish? it is an absolute requirement otherwise you will have trouble to keep in the flow.

As far as I know they have some Spanisch and US FOs nowadays. Everybody I know is relatively hapy with the work conditions and some people who left apparently have come back.

[memphx]

Yeah I know Spanish, but I don't use it so much anymore so it would take a few months to get back to being actually fluent.

[AVApilot]

Memphx,

please don't waste your time coming to Avianca, now that it has merged with TACA things are only going to get worse, the new VP of Operations is none other than Captain Julian Jacome, you may not know who he is but he is the guy who will take everything away from pilots, he's a bad manager and a worse pilot, don't come here, save yourself the humiliation from idiots like the ones running avianca these days, unfortunatelly avianca is a wreck waiting to happen.

I work there feel free to PM anytime if you need more info

[Gusz]

Hi to all!
Avianca is currently Hiring, but then again is WHO you know on the inside.
I do not work for Avianca. the airline is great, from a passanger point of view,nice a/c, nice people, flight attendants,ground service.. etc.. BUT
from a pilot looking for employment point of view.. not so much.
*9 days off per month, management is pushing hard to make it 7 days off a month, with 110 hrs a month.
*there's no bidding system
*even if you're the most senior guy on property.. gues what.... 9 days off.
*no real Union...
*there's retired pilots flying the line, earning 2 salaries, while the new hire makes... you guess it...
*fast career advancement
*Lots of a$$ kissing..
*Old school crusty captain's.

disclaimer:
not looking for a job right now, turned down several years ago when I was recently graduated from flight school. just the facts, from conversations with my dear friends that are waiting for a chance to get out of there..
not trying to put down avianca.. just info for the guys that are looking (desperate) for a job in colombia.

[Desert_Storm]

Memphx,

please don't waste your time coming to Avianca, now that it has merged with TACA things are only going to get worse, the new VP of Operations is none other than Captain Julian Jacome, you may not know who he is but he is the guy who will take everything away from pilots, he's a bad manager and a worse pilot, don't come here, save yourself the humiliation from idiots like the ones running avianca these days, unfortunatelly avianca is a wreck waiting to happen.

It's sad to see that nothing has changed in Avianca. Nevertheless, is astonishing to see the career progression of Cap. J. Jacome. From almost wrecking an MD-83 at Rionegro Airport, to the 767 Chief Pilot desk and now, VP Flight Operation, wow, not bad. And some people think the pastusos are idiots jejejeje. Well, Korean and Asiana still think they are (idiots) and it's worth noting that he and his very mediocre brother in law (el calvete) were never able to make it at Asiana, Korean and every single carrier they tried in the past. What a bunch of ass@#$% Avianca has in top positions: J.Jacome, O. Calvo, R. Ferreira, C. Sinisterra and never forget the notorious J. Barreto. A dream team I would say. Brace people!!!!