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Ejector 22nd Dec 2019 01:14

Ontario MNR Water Bombers
 
Do they still use the DHC-6 To cool fires ?

What much water can they scoop and drop ?

Are they any good ?

Pilot DAR 22nd Dec 2019 01:40

Yes, MNR use six Twin Otters for water bombing. I understand that they work very well, I've seen them in action a number of times. They bombed a fire about two miles from my house a year and a half ago.

I don't know their capacity, but it would be more than a ton of water.

N707ZS 22nd Dec 2019 22:11

There are a couple of photos with the water being jettisoned from doors in the floats. I presume the water must be stored in the fuselage and not in the floats.

India Four Two 23rd Dec 2019 18:16

I found this lovely video - aah de Havilland!

It shows water bombing from Beavers, Otters and Twin Otters. Some of the shots show the over-float tanks, including an on the step pickup. It also shows drops from in-float tanks, which must be filled while on the step.

There are also some nice stills showing improvised engine-changes in the bush.


Ejector 25th Dec 2019 23:58

Great Video.

Spent hours searching the www, still can't find the DCH-6 Float Bomber Capacity.

Pilot DAR 26th Dec 2019 02:00


Spent hours searching the www, still can't find the DCH-6 Float Bomber Capacity
If you're really stuck for the answer, I can ask when I see the maintenance guys next spring. I knew the gentlemen who designed the mod, though they're both pretty well retired now.

In the mean time, this information should get you close.

https://www.bushplane.com/index.php?id=waterbomb

There is a minimum amount of water to be carried before it actually reaches the ground in a salvo. I was doing some design work to have a Cessna Caravan become a water bomber, but it won't carry enough weight in water to make it effective. The Twin Otter seems to be about the minimum, but they work well....

I have visited this fine museum a number of times, and highly recommend it

Also, have a look for the book: Aerial Firefighting, by Wolfgang Jendsch. I have a copy, and it's a very informative read.



jriv 30th Dec 2019 22:03


Originally Posted by Pilot DAR (Post 10647438)
If you're really stuck for the answer, I can ask when I see the maintenance guys next spring. I knew the gentlemen who designed the mod, though they're both pretty well retired now.

In the mean time, this information should get you close.

https://www.bushplane.com/index.php?id=waterbomb

There is a minimum amount of water to be carried before it actually reaches the ground in a salvo. I was doing some design work to have a Cessna Caravan become a water bomber, but it won't carry enough weight in water to make it effective. The Twin Otter seems to be about the minimum, but they work well....

I have visited this fine museum a number of times, and highly recommend it

Also, have a look for the book: Aerial Firefighting, by Wolfgang Jendsch. I have a copy, and it's a very informative read.




When I was a college student I worked as a non-pilot crewmember on the Twin Otter during 2 summers. It was an awesome job.

The floats hold 225 gallons of water each. The water is collected through a probe on the bottom of the float as the aircraft skims the water on the step. There are little openings covered by a flap near the top of the float. When the float reaches capacity it starts to spill out the little opening. It is visible from the pilot seats via a rear-view mirror outside the pilot windows. At that point the pilot flips a switch that retracts the water-collection probe.

cj3pilot 17th Jan 2020 01:07

450 gals for the dhc-6
i think 1700gals for the 415
and if i remember 150 for the turbo beaver and 250 for the dhc-3 but those two types are not used anymore


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