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wskwong 14th Sep 2009 01:35

Candidates for ETOPS in North America-Asian Route
 
Hi there,

Just wondering if anyone knows which airports will be chosen for ETOPS in, say the Toronto-Hong Kong route?

Also I've heard that in most countries the ETOPS regulation is 3 hours for single-operation. Does that mean you have to land within 3 hours when one engine quit on a two-engine aircraft?

extreme P 14th Sep 2009 08:31

3 hours (180 Minutes) ETOPS means no further than 180 minutes from a suitable airport. There is no requirement to land in that time when things go wrong.

Maple Leafs 24th Sep 2009 00:11

Some countries have their own limits i.e. 180 minutes, 207 minutes and possible approval for 240 minutes flying time from a suitable alternate.
ETOPS (Engines Turning Or People Swimming) takes on a whole new meaning.

I will include a website with some downloadable maps for you pursual and if you have a problem over the north pole, head south and pick a country.

Aviation Route Maps - Maps

Depending on your aircraft type, some of these airports are emergency only and cannot be used as an en-route alternates for planning purposes but if you have a problem and need some asphalt, it is certainly there to use. An example that it may not be suitable is the fire services at the airport.

As for getting there in the time allotted is based on the aircraft speed of Mmo/Vmo (redline) in still air but I would find it hard to believe a Captain will put that much power on his only engine unless terrain is a factor. Most will select a somewhat lower altitude and throttle back and nurse that puppy to the nearest suitable airport.

Hope it helps.

Go Leafs; they’re on a winning streak now.:D

CanadaKid 24th Sep 2009 06:40

ETOPS clarity
 
wskwong,

Just to clarify a small point, as extreme P wrote - 180 minutes from a suitable airport ( in still air )

So although the 180 min ETOPS might equate to a distance of 1260 nm from a suitable airport - in still air - any ETOPS scenario will likely have you somewhat more than 180 minutes from touchdown.


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