New Hires at AC?
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New Hires at AC?
A little birdy said hiring is about to begin again. Can someone in-the-know describe:
-what equipment one would likely begin on
-where one would likely need to reside
-salary for the first three years or so
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-what equipment one would likely begin on
-where one would likely need to reside
-salary for the first three years or so
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Thats good news that AC is hiring, maybe I will get a shot at the interview if I dont pass then I can quit dreaming. A quick question fellows if you dont mind. The career page says min 1000 hrs. , but what are they actually looking for to be competitive? Thanks alot
Although very unofficial on the next list over fifty pilots are posted inactive for example retirement, disability etc.
There is a capability to hire over fifty pilots and this is with a reduction on all B-767 First Officer positions and B-767 Relief Pilot positions.
Getting hired is like winning the lottery (without the cash at first) but through time you will advance to what ever position you want to be in that your seniority will allow.
There are two schools of thought in the airline world; one is bid everything to the bottom for the most junior position on the biggest aircraft you can hold. Up side is you get the opportunity to fly the bigger aircraft early. Downside is you are on reserve think of the Maytag repairman short calls, no choice for vacation, not very conducive for home life.
Stay senior on junior rated positions. Up side your choice of working conditions, vacation, days off (never miss your children's birthday parties) down side you do not get on the larger aircraft earlier.
After saying that in your career you will become senior before you know it but enjoy the ride and if you are given lemons make lemonade...
There is a capability to hire over fifty pilots and this is with a reduction on all B-767 First Officer positions and B-767 Relief Pilot positions.
Getting hired is like winning the lottery (without the cash at first) but through time you will advance to what ever position you want to be in that your seniority will allow.
There are two schools of thought in the airline world; one is bid everything to the bottom for the most junior position on the biggest aircraft you can hold. Up side is you get the opportunity to fly the bigger aircraft early. Downside is you are on reserve think of the Maytag repairman short calls, no choice for vacation, not very conducive for home life.
Stay senior on junior rated positions. Up side your choice of working conditions, vacation, days off (never miss your children's birthday parties) down side you do not get on the larger aircraft earlier.
After saying that in your career you will become senior before you know it but enjoy the ride and if you are given lemons make lemonade...
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A330 that's pretty good 50 pilots or so, I wonder how many thousands of applications are there for these 50 positions hahaha. Does being type rated on an aircraft that AC operates help or they don't really care, I fly the 320 on the other side of the pond?
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Having time on type doesn't really matter that much as you will likely not be flying the A320 if you got hired anyway.
Where it will help you is on the matrix that determines who gets interviews.. It takes into account a multitude of things including time on transport category jets.
Good luck to all who have applied.
P.S. I don't think there is an upper end for age. After all, that would be age discrimination and as has been pounded into our heads on another thread, that is illegal in Canada.....
Where it will help you is on the matrix that determines who gets interviews.. It takes into account a multitude of things including time on transport category jets.
Good luck to all who have applied.
P.S. I don't think there is an upper end for age. After all, that would be age discrimination and as has been pounded into our heads on another thread, that is illegal in Canada.....
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Originally Posted by Thunderpants
Any idea what their UPPER hiring age is for either S/O or F/O's?
By the way, we don't have any S/O's. Did you mean R/P's?
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Yes, guess I ment F/O's and R/P's.
I have around 4800 hrs tt, around half of which is glass cockpit turbine with over 1000 turbine pic. Of course I have put my resume in along with the other 4000+, but as a guy who's old enough to know better but still young enough not to care, I'm just curious as to what you think the upper age at which guys are generally asked in for the interviews. Do the lovely people in the HR dept. at AC have a cut off where the candidate is considered 'Over the hill'?
Many Thanks!
I have around 4800 hrs tt, around half of which is glass cockpit turbine with over 1000 turbine pic. Of course I have put my resume in along with the other 4000+, but as a guy who's old enough to know better but still young enough not to care, I'm just curious as to what you think the upper age at which guys are generally asked in for the interviews. Do the lovely people in the HR dept. at AC have a cut off where the candidate is considered 'Over the hill'?
Many Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Thunderpants
I'm just curious as to what you think the upper age at which guys are generally asked in for the interviews.
It is not there for a reason. In the mid-'80s, a number of pilots seeking employment with Air Canada took Air Canada to the Human Rights Tribunal on an age discrimination complaint. The Tribunal forced Air Canada to stop discriminating on the basis of age for hiring. Air Canada never gives up easily--it took that decision to appeal and lost, big time.
Age discrimination for hiring is illegal in all of the federal jurisdiction in Canada, as it is for all of the employment relationship, including, according to the Human Rights Tribunal as of 2009, mandatory retirement. So, not only can Air Canada not ask you to tell them your age, they cannot not hire you because of your age.
There is a lot more to this issue, but for your purposes, that information should answer your question. Enjoy your interview.
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AC Interviews
Hi all,
when are the interviews being held, ie how much notice do they provide?
Next point, what type of questions they ask at the interview? have tried searching around, but everything seems out of date.
when are the interviews being held, ie how much notice do they provide?
Next point, what type of questions they ask at the interview? have tried searching around, but everything seems out of date.
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Yup, the median age if you talk to recruitment for hiring with us over the last 3 intakes is 34-35, so it takes some guts to get on-board with the first 2 years' washers paid until year 3 kicks in.
Youngest hire I know of late is on the EMBs at late 20s - 27/28 - the son of a B767 Captain - but with good Caribbean propjet experience under his belt and a former Webster trophy winner.
Likely just over 50 inactives on the list as someone else mentioned here...
Anything else, you can PM me.
Doesn't smell like AvCanada from where I sit - yet...
Youngest hire I know of late is on the EMBs at late 20s - 27/28 - the son of a B767 Captain - but with good Caribbean propjet experience under his belt and a former Webster trophy winner.
Likely just over 50 inactives on the list as someone else mentioned here...
Anything else, you can PM me.
Doesn't smell like AvCanada from where I sit - yet...
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This question about age is always strange and that's a good thing AC hasn't the right to ask applicant's age. Those for who aviation is a second career choice (me, & others) wouldn't have a chance to progress. But I'm realizing now that passed mid 30's and shy to 2000TT will naturally close few doors.
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Over Under/Ray, In fact the medical requires you to state your age when in the selection chain at AC, to withold or falsify this info would methinks cause a wee bit of a problem, but then Im not a lawyer, maybe with your legal qualifictions you might like to expand on this.
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Why do you assume anybody who knows something about age discrimination laws in this country and can communicate it effectively in a coherent, grammatically correct sentence with no spelling mistakes is Ray Hall?
Why do you assume anybody who knows something about age discrimination laws in this country and can communicate it effectively in a coherent, grammatically correct sentence with no spelling mistakes is Ray Hall?