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Aphelio,
Knocking on doors is still the best way to get your foot in the door with most float operations. No one will start you out on a DHC-2/3 or Caravan so check out operators with C-180/185's, Super Cubs or smaller in their fleet. Even then, you may be in store for a summer (or two) on the dock with hopefully, a check out towards the end of the season and maybe flying some camp checks or overloads to satisfy insurance requirements before carrying paying customers.
It's tough but not impossible to get your foot in the door. If you're persistent and able to maintain your optimism, somebody will give you your shot. Best of luck!
Knocking on doors is still the best way to get your foot in the door with most float operations. No one will start you out on a DHC-2/3 or Caravan so check out operators with C-180/185's, Super Cubs or smaller in their fleet. Even then, you may be in store for a summer (or two) on the dock with hopefully, a check out towards the end of the season and maybe flying some camp checks or overloads to satisfy insurance requirements before carrying paying customers.
It's tough but not impossible to get your foot in the door. If you're persistent and able to maintain your optimism, somebody will give you your shot. Best of luck!
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Just got my first Job
Hi, I have been reading these posts for about a year but never really felt the need to contribute. Well do be honest I admit I don't know much and not the rambling kind of guy!. I just got my first job pretty fresh off my CPL and will go right seat into an Otter. I did most of my training on a floatplane and that's why I got the job. I wanted to share this as I didn't know that I could do licenses on a floatplane until my Dad did the research and found that you could but that most schools don't do it. Well this made all the difference for me.I wouldn't have got the job otherwise!
Thought you guys would find this interesting about the aviation job market and training . I got this article via e-mail from the school that does a newsletter. But there's some good information you may find interesting. I do agree that there are more bush jobs right now then last year. Oh and if you go to the link, they have a contest where you can win a pilot watch.
http://www.air-hart.com/userfiles/Av...Feb%202010.pdf
Good luck to all of you. I start my job in April and I am quite excited.
Thought you guys would find this interesting about the aviation job market and training . I got this article via e-mail from the school that does a newsletter. But there's some good information you may find interesting. I do agree that there are more bush jobs right now then last year. Oh and if you go to the link, they have a contest where you can win a pilot watch.
http://www.air-hart.com/userfiles/Av...Feb%202010.pdf
Good luck to all of you. I start my job in April and I am quite excited.
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knock on doors
Bushed is right. Sending off resumes and hoping for a responses is not the way to go. Do a road trip and knock on doors make sure you have the qualifications - I landed a job that way. As for insurance, it's a bit of a catch 22 and why I took most of my license on a floatplane. You need to have at least a rating but even now that won't help you with some of the smaller operators
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thanks for the info, avmaniac!!!
thatīs whatīs planned to do. still need to convert my JAA to the canadian...at least the PPL
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sometimes i think itīs kind a suicidal mission...
anybody who had to do this conversion ( I already check the thread to convert FAA to canadian, and I guess would be similar..)
thatīs whatīs planned to do. still need to convert my JAA to the canadian...at least the PPL
.sometimes i think itīs kind a suicidal mission...
anybody who had to do this conversion ( I already check the thread to convert FAA to canadian, and I guess would be similar..)
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Almost certainly.
The Fragrant Harbor wannabees section has some interesting perspectives on the Cathay Cadet program. Basically they trade off expat benefits for Cathay paying for their flying and the job. They'll always be on local terms with CX. Some people have run the numbers over a career, and its heavily slanted towards Cathay's benefit.
The Fragrant Harbor wannabees section has some interesting perspectives on the Cathay Cadet program. Basically they trade off expat benefits for Cathay paying for their flying and the job. They'll always be on local terms with CX. Some people have run the numbers over a career, and its heavily slanted towards Cathay's benefit.
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Flying in Canada
Guys,the sooner you realize that flying in Canada is horrible the better!! 703/704 outfits are the dregs of worldwide aviation...no pay,terrible scheds and unsafe planes.The worst, most of the time is the management who push you to break all the rules in order to be "operational" and then falsify the numbers at the end of the day in order to comply with TC,who doesn't seem to care anyway.
This is Canadian aviation...3000+ hrs to fly a kingair,2000+ for a Navajo...Really? I know guys in Asia that got right seat in an Airbus with under 1000 hrs,making twice the money of any 703/704 captain.I love Canada,but if you want to fly and earn more than working behind the counter at Tim Horton's...Canada is not the place to be.
This is Canadian aviation...3000+ hrs to fly a kingair,2000+ for a Navajo...Really? I know guys in Asia that got right seat in an Airbus with under 1000 hrs,making twice the money of any 703/704 captain.I love Canada,but if you want to fly and earn more than working behind the counter at Tim Horton's...Canada is not the place to be.
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his is Canadian aviation...3000+ hrs to fly a kingair,2000+ for a Navajo...Really? I know guys in Asia that got right seat in an Airbus with under 1000 hrs,making twice the money of any 703/704 captain.I love Canada,but if you want to fly and earn more than working behind the counter at Tim Horton's...Canada is not the place to be
Those daddyīs
children, with paid HT are the ones who help dumping the aviation market, and now humble no-a-cent money pilots need to tear our soles worldwide leaving behind life, family, etc.anyway...market is the same everywhere, but I believe canadian aviation will be the first recovering
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Yeah let's hope the market recovers as quickly as possible for all of us...but you missed my point concerning Canadian aviation.If you have under 5000 or so hours TT,the only aircrafts you can hope to fly are light twin props which comes,of course with very little pay and very bad working conditions.I'm only comparing this to almost everywhere else in the world where you get on a jet with much better pay and conditions with MUCH less time.
I've flown out of the country,came back and tried to make it happen in Canada for two years.I've realized that aviation in canada will not change,so I'm leaving again and sadly will not come back.
Best of luck to everyone!
I've flown out of the country,came back and tried to make it happen in Canada for two years.I've realized that aviation in canada will not change,so I'm leaving again and sadly will not come back.
Best of luck to everyone!
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yeah, I got your point, lacmegantic..and I am sorry you need to emigrate again..
I donīt mind to peel my ass in small planes..i love aviation, no matter which kind...better conditions will came...one day.
Market is destroyed worlwide, but i heard in Canada itīll recover quicker, and aviation is not only for leisure or turism mainly..at least iīll try!!
thanks for the info, and best of luck!!!
I donīt mind to peel my ass in small planes..i love aviation, no matter which kind...better conditions will came...one day.
Market is destroyed worlwide, but i heard in Canada itīll recover quicker, and aviation is not only for leisure or turism mainly..at least iīll try!!
thanks for the info, and best of luck!!!
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Sorry to break it to you but if you do enough research you'll find out that the aviation dream that was long lost, is even harder to reach now.
Working as a pilot with at least one other job will barely keep you afloat.
I'd love to get back into the industry as well, but it doesn't seem like it will ever happen.
Working as a pilot with at least one other job will barely keep you afloat.
I'd love to get back into the industry as well, but it doesn't seem like it will ever happen.
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Well, thatīs going on worlwide.
Anyhow and fortunately that wonīt last forever, the economyīs got cycles, this is a down one, and later will came a high one...and later a down one...thatīs life and reality, only this one is lower that the earlier ones. Weīll recover.
The thing is that there are countries, like mine, with nuts politicians, that screw our country even in crisis, that will last many years to head up this downturn.
Thatīs why, Canada, led by much more smart politicians I believe it will get out this mud pool.
I still donīt know which part to head too, if east or west, north or central. By the scarse info that I got, I will bet for BC. weīll see..
Anyhow and fortunately that wonīt last forever, the economyīs got cycles, this is a down one, and later will came a high one...and later a down one...thatīs life and reality, only this one is lower that the earlier ones. Weīll recover.
The thing is that there are countries, like mine, with nuts politicians, that screw our country even in crisis, that will last many years to head up this downturn.
Thatīs why, Canada, led by much more smart politicians I believe it will get out this mud pool.
I still donīt know which part to head too, if east or west, north or central. By the scarse info that I got, I will bet for BC. weīll see..
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I wouldn't count on anything in BC if I were you IMHO. First, people like to stay in BC, hence slower movement, and second, you will probably fall victim to the Oil companies "Contrail" requirements. Basically you may get a couple thousand hours right seat and get stuck there, not even being close to meeting the requirements for Captain. I know a couple thousand hours of anything sounds amazing right now, but in the long run, getting some PIC is setting yourself up for the future. I would try the Territories, Sask, Man and NW Ontario. I hope that narrows it down for you
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thanks so much, albertaboy,
it narrows it, indeed!
soon Iīll be packing my things.
As well, I was thinking to take the float rating, not much people have it here, back home and iīd be a leverage, i hope...
.iīve seen arround 2000 dollars...itīs that around the average price??
I believe i donīt need to have the canadian-CPL to attach it, do I?with validating my PPL itīll be enough..
cheers!
it narrows it, indeed!
soon Iīll be packing my things.
As well, I was thinking to take the float rating, not much people have it here, back home and iīd be a leverage, i hope...
.iīve seen arround 2000 dollars...itīs that around the average price??I believe i donīt need to have the canadian-CPL to attach it, do I?with validating my PPL itīll be enough..
cheers!
