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I still maintain that God wants the little wheel at the back of the aircraft! So there! {This sentiment shared by many of my age by the way} So sensor all you wish on Av Canada, but not here if you dont mind, the Brits have a far more developed sense of humour it seems, the fact that Av Canada is in fact an American site dooms it to being totally PC, pity, but then Canada is tied at the hip to tha USA these days, which is not all bad by the way, but when our media and webb sites come under their domination then its time to find another venue.Contact the Mods?, When I took exception to remarks made by a Mod, pointing out the unfairness of her post in regards to a pilot who landed of on the wrong runway, rather than defend her position she simply pulled the post, thus leaving the rebuttal hanging out on its own, Thats hardley the way discusions are meant to go, then to confuse friendship with the right to differ on a point destroys the whole point of having an aviation site!
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I would defend myself by saying I just checked my PM's and I have none from you on any date yet alone on Oct. 23rd, but seeing as you have decided to discredit me one here with a total fabrication that I cannot disprove, I will leave you to your shallow victory.
I'm sure those Avcanada members that have PM'd me in the past would attest to the fact that I follow up on all messages I recieve.
I'm sure those Avcanada members that have PM'd me in the past would attest to the fact that I follow up on all messages I recieve.
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My "sent" log states that it was my 42nd PM sent, was sent 23oct 2010 at 1738 EST, have never had a PM not make it through cyber space before, so I put you last post up there with "the cheques in the mail".
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My opologies to clunckdriver. For some reason I thought that he ment to my pm at Avcanada not here. I have recieved only 1 other message on Pprune since registering in 2004 and as I don't get an email to tell me I recieved a pm I never thought to check it.
I wish I could answer your questions clunck but I can't.
As for going away, I will, from this thread, but I do enjoy some of the other stuff I see here and will be back to visit again. As you can see by my post count, I don't spend a lot of time here.
I wish I could answer your questions clunck but I can't.
As for going away, I will, from this thread, but I do enjoy some of the other stuff I see here and will be back to visit again. As you can see by my post count, I don't spend a lot of time here.
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Sorry for dragging this thread up again, but it seemed the most appropriate place. Add me to the list of former avcanada posters. It's just getting ridiculous the number of threads that have disappeared, as well as general heavy-handed moderation. Oh, and I run a chat site and manage a bunch of moderators myself so I know the difficulties, but avcanada just seems to be ridiculous at the moment.
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Same kind of censorship often goes on here. I had my posts deleted and I was even banned from PPrune for a period, some years ago.
The subject was flying troops into and out of Afghanistan. The British, US and Canadian troops all required that their troops be exclusively rotated in and out of Afghanistan on military aircraft that were fitted with missile protection (DAS). Other countries like the French, the Dutch, the Danes or the Germans did not have that requirement. Canada, which until 2007 had 5 A-310s with no DAS, never flew any of them into Afghanistan. They went as far as Dubai and changed to C-130s from there. It's fleet of Bombardier Challengers never did medevacs out of Afghanistan for the same reasons. They only used the protected Hercs, and later the C-17s.
I stated that several airlines flew commercially into Afghanistan quite safely, and that the Taliban had no AA missiles, that there had not been a single documented case of an AA missile fired at any aircraft since the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan (there still hasn't been any) and that I thought that this measure was in place to give the military transports the monopoly of flying all troops so that contracts would not be given out to cheaper commercial charters like British Airways. I gave examples of unprotected civilian aircraft that were flying inside of Afghanistan for NATO and of the UN airlines that also flew in and out, with no incidents. All of the information I provided was public information gleaned off the Web.
I was accused of putting the troops at risk and my posts and the replies they generated were taken down. I was banned from PPRune for x weeks........
Probably some British Military sent a message to a Mod requesting that I be gagged and he/she gladly obliged........
The subject was flying troops into and out of Afghanistan. The British, US and Canadian troops all required that their troops be exclusively rotated in and out of Afghanistan on military aircraft that were fitted with missile protection (DAS). Other countries like the French, the Dutch, the Danes or the Germans did not have that requirement. Canada, which until 2007 had 5 A-310s with no DAS, never flew any of them into Afghanistan. They went as far as Dubai and changed to C-130s from there. It's fleet of Bombardier Challengers never did medevacs out of Afghanistan for the same reasons. They only used the protected Hercs, and later the C-17s.
I stated that several airlines flew commercially into Afghanistan quite safely, and that the Taliban had no AA missiles, that there had not been a single documented case of an AA missile fired at any aircraft since the 2001 invasion of Afghanistan (there still hasn't been any) and that I thought that this measure was in place to give the military transports the monopoly of flying all troops so that contracts would not be given out to cheaper commercial charters like British Airways. I gave examples of unprotected civilian aircraft that were flying inside of Afghanistan for NATO and of the UN airlines that also flew in and out, with no incidents. All of the information I provided was public information gleaned off the Web.
I was accused of putting the troops at risk and my posts and the replies they generated were taken down. I was banned from PPRune for x weeks........
Probably some British Military sent a message to a Mod requesting that I be gagged and he/she gladly obliged........
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Sorry for dragging this thread up again, but it seemed the most appropriate place. Add me to the list of former avcanada posters. It's just getting ridiculous the number of threads that have disappeared, as well as general heavy-handed moderation. Oh, and I run a chat site and manage a bunch of moderators myself so I know the difficulties, but avcanada just seems to be ridiculous at the moment.
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Well, I like AvCanada. So what if some threads get pulled?
The fact is that not everyone acts so nicely, and , it seems, some dont really understand simple civility anymore.
Yes it is a bit frustrating to see this or that thread get pulled, particularily when it brings one of the dark side companies into the light. But lets be honest here.. There is a lot of unfair comments made. Rude comments.
Pesonal slurs...Mods just doing their job...
Being 6000 miles away from home for nearly five years now, and its kind of nice to read what is there. Even if the main posterships is younger..
It has been said so many times. If you dont like it, dont go there. No need to trash a site because you dont happen to like it...
The fact is that not everyone acts so nicely, and , it seems, some dont really understand simple civility anymore.
Yes it is a bit frustrating to see this or that thread get pulled, particularily when it brings one of the dark side companies into the light. But lets be honest here.. There is a lot of unfair comments made. Rude comments.
Pesonal slurs...Mods just doing their job...
Being 6000 miles away from home for nearly five years now, and its kind of nice to read what is there. Even if the main posterships is younger..
It has been said so many times. If you dont like it, dont go there. No need to trash a site because you dont happen to like it...
I was accused of putting the troops at risk and my posts and the replies they generated were taken down. I was banned from PPRune for x weeks........
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Ah, so it was you who banned me for a 'racist' comment that wasn't racist in any way and didn't have the balls to actually reply to my PM via Sulako? I made a comment about the people who (according to a TC report) deliberately killed a pilot and 3 passengers while drunk. I made a comment basically saying they are drunks and not very nice people (not using those exact words 
, along with the people launching the lawsuit.
So just because they are native and I was having a go at them (rightly so, IMO), I'm racist? The fact they were native didn't enter my mind when posting. Surely that makes you racist, does it not? Or is it just PC gone mad?
Also, there were a few other reasons for my rant here:
- thread about mid-air collision pulled when people started talking about CARs.
- thread about possible CAR violation by a certain company pulled by a moderator who works at that company.
, along with the people launching the lawsuit.So just because they are native and I was having a go at them (rightly so, IMO), I'm racist? The fact they were native didn't enter my mind when posting. Surely that makes you racist, does it not? Or is it just PC gone mad?
Also, there were a few other reasons for my rant here:
- thread about mid-air collision pulled when people started talking about CARs.
- thread about possible CAR violation by a certain company pulled by a moderator who works at that company.
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If you've got a PM for me, send it along, and we can hash this out in private. I didn't see the pm that you sent to Sully. I'm pretty sure that your 'ban' was a one day suspension.
Threads are pulled/moderated for several reasons, all of which you agreed to when you signed up here or on any other BB, including AvCan. If you can't abide by those conditions, then feel free not to post.
Threads are pulled/moderated for several reasons, all of which you agreed to when you signed up here or on any other BB, including AvCan. If you can't abide by those conditions, then feel free not to post.
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Ok, thanks for the reply. I talked to North Shore via PM and we sorted things out. I still think there is sometimes some over-moderation at avcanada, but the moderators are all decent people trying to make the forums a sane place and I respect them.
