Avcanada censorship
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Looks like someone (not me, hence my having no idea what you were talking about - I verified that by checking the mod logs too, btw) thought the thread was verging on racist and was trying to pre-empt a regression. I note to that effect by the mod in question would have been appropriate though, agreed.
I think you're making mountains out of molehills.
I think you're making mountains out of molehills.
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This sounds all too very familiar. Didn't a small island country in the caribbean in 1964 open its prison gates and released 15000 prisoners to a bigger country not too far off just to rid themselves of the parasites in their society?
It was a genius move then as well...
It was a genius move then as well...
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Another case of a pilot’s licence “irregularity” has arisen: Readers will note no problem with the culprit being named, just as PPRuNe accepted naming the former Westjet ATPL forger.
Both of these well respected forums do not impose any censorship when guilty parties are named. This really shows up Avcanada’s selective censorship and refusal to allow the identification of certain wrongdoers, including those who have pleaded guilty and been sentenced! Note that there is no possibility of defamation where the party has pleaded guilty in court and such a plea is part of the court records and is common knowledge in the media. In such circumstances the threat of defamation and lawyers’ letters mentioned by an Avcanada moderator is a red herring or simple bluff that Avcanada’s mods have been taken in by.
As mentioned previously, Avcanada has destroyed its own credibility. It has some good topics and some wise and experienced posters. People post questions on Avcanada and receive useful answers. There is no doubt it adds some knowledge and enjoyment to Canadian aviation but Avcanada could be of far more value if it would correct its failings. It is to be hoped that the operators of Avcanada will review their moderation policy to introduce some consistency in what is allowed and to permit the identification of all wrongdoers.
Both of these well respected forums do not impose any censorship when guilty parties are named. This really shows up Avcanada’s selective censorship and refusal to allow the identification of certain wrongdoers, including those who have pleaded guilty and been sentenced! Note that there is no possibility of defamation where the party has pleaded guilty in court and such a plea is part of the court records and is common knowledge in the media. In such circumstances the threat of defamation and lawyers’ letters mentioned by an Avcanada moderator is a red herring or simple bluff that Avcanada’s mods have been taken in by.
As mentioned previously, Avcanada has destroyed its own credibility. It has some good topics and some wise and experienced posters. People post questions on Avcanada and receive useful answers. There is no doubt it adds some knowledge and enjoyment to Canadian aviation but Avcanada could be of far more value if it would correct its failings. It is to be hoped that the operators of Avcanada will review their moderation policy to introduce some consistency in what is allowed and to permit the identification of all wrongdoers.
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All a bit prissy isn't this girls?
We've been running for 13 years 24/7 and there's not a single day of that we haven't censored/deleted/altered or bowdlerised posts on this site.
Let's make it absolutely clear guys - not one single day.
Regards
Rob
We've been running for 13 years 24/7 and there's not a single day of that we haven't censored/deleted/altered or bowdlerised posts on this site.
Let's make it absolutely clear guys - not one single day.
Regards
Rob
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Gotta add my name to the list. I've had a PM from the Admin at AVCanada telling me not to post names in threads. I simply asked a question about 'what ever happened to.....?' (Once).
I've seen many posts by people on said forum, including the board mods, that have names in them... some even could be considered 'negative'.
Seems to be a double standard over there.
I also agree with a huge lack of maturity there. I'm thinking of removing AVCanada from my 'bookmarks toolbar'.
I've seen many posts by people on said forum, including the board mods, that have names in them... some even could be considered 'negative'.
Seems to be a double standard over there.
I also agree with a huge lack of maturity there. I'm thinking of removing AVCanada from my 'bookmarks toolbar'.
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I look at AvCanada most days, but never have posted, nor wanted to, as their rep for removal of innocent posts is becoming legendary - even when it is a valid, serious point being made.
Some censorship and removal of lunatic posts is to be expected, but not to the extent of AvCanada - which I believe goes as far as modifying posts to create a specific editorial slant. Wonder if any of them work at Navigator PR ??
PPRUNE doesn't do that it seems, and therefore, the discussion is not prissy as we establish precisely what they're up to over there in potentially slanting opinion...
Some censorship and removal of lunatic posts is to be expected, but not to the extent of AvCanada - which I believe goes as far as modifying posts to create a specific editorial slant. Wonder if any of them work at Navigator PR ??
PPRUNE doesn't do that it seems, and therefore, the discussion is not prissy as we establish precisely what they're up to over there in potentially slanting opinion...
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All a bit prissy isn't this girls?
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avcanada is an excellent place to learn of "the currupt officals @ tcca"! not too many threads where that is involved go missing, why is that? seems the"top poster" himself has quit posting and is just learking. too bad. he brought alot of useful info to avcanada.(sarcasim)
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Funny, they had a thread about the forum and moderation, and I put in my 2 cents on why that foum gets little traffic (mods with agendas, no one is interested in reading thread after thread title "To the crew of AC 8777" with a body of how great the flight/service/etc was, etc) and it was promptly deleted.
There is nothing to be learned there. The atmosphere doesn't foster interesting debate or exchange. Much more interesting information and discussion is available through private messaging.
The thing is, without a lot of active users, forums like that serve little purpose. If I want breaking stories, I'll come here, because not only do you find out what, you get informed thoughts on why.
Avcanada has alienated everyone there who could even remotely offer the same.
I'd rather mods deleting stupid questions than asking them.
There is nothing to be learned there. The atmosphere doesn't foster interesting debate or exchange. Much more interesting information and discussion is available through private messaging.
The thing is, without a lot of active users, forums like that serve little purpose. If I want breaking stories, I'll come here, because not only do you find out what, you get informed thoughts on why.
Avcanada has alienated everyone there who could even remotely offer the same.
I'd rather mods deleting stupid questions than asking them.
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I haven't logged in to this site for quite some time...
Anyways, I have some mixed feelings for AvCanada. I'm happy with the job that the mods have been doing in regulating profanity, questionable avatars (although I see one or two still there), idiotic/drunken posts and the like. That's moderation. What I DON'T like is removal of threads or modification of names when the information is readily available though other print media (newspapers, etc). The info is out there. I also have to admit that the continual TCCA rant has me glazed over... I love you to death Chuck, really.. but enough is enough. As soon as that pops up, the thread is done for me.
I realize that AvCanada is a private site. I think, for the most part, that Joe and the mods do alright.
Anyways, I have some mixed feelings for AvCanada. I'm happy with the job that the mods have been doing in regulating profanity, questionable avatars (although I see one or two still there), idiotic/drunken posts and the like. That's moderation. What I DON'T like is removal of threads or modification of names when the information is readily available though other print media (newspapers, etc). The info is out there. I also have to admit that the continual TCCA rant has me glazed over... I love you to death Chuck, really.. but enough is enough. As soon as that pops up, the thread is done for me.
I realize that AvCanada is a private site. I think, for the most part, that Joe and the mods do alright.
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You can read Avcanada all you want now flybabe because I have finally decided that enough is enough so I decided the best way to solve the problem is don't post there anymore.
When I first started to share my experience with TCCA on Avcanada it was in the hope it would prevent someone else from making the same mistake I made when I followed their rules, it just went from there to the point that I was unable to shake the habit.
When I first started to share my experience with TCCA on Avcanada it was in the hope it would prevent someone else from making the same mistake I made when I followed their rules, it just went from there to the point that I was unable to shake the habit.
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This site is quite different flybabe as it is world wide in scope and thus there is less discussion of local problems.
Not to mention the fact that I spent the last decade of my career in Europe, Africa and South America so I am more comfortable in this culture.
You going to go back to air attack flying next year?
Not to mention the fact that I spent the last decade of my career in Europe, Africa and South America so I am more comfortable in this culture.
You going to go back to air attack flying next year?
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When it comes to quality of content on an aviation forum one need look no further than the value of the posts by " Zipper Magnus " on Avcanada.
No wonder many of the people with something worth offering have left the site.
No wonder many of the people with something worth offering have left the site.