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Old 11th May 2005, 17:35
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Inuksuk & brucelee,

You bet the first few rounds are on me! You guys have been great!..............Thanks!
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Old 11th May 2005, 17:37
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Any thoughts on why there is no spot to enter light multi engine turbine time on the A/C application? They have spots for every other kind of time under the sun (including helicopter time) There are alot of guys with tons of PIC on King Airs, MU-2's Cheyennes etc yet there seems to be no place to enter it, except of course for your attached CV. I found it kind of strange as they have a spot for light piston twin but not turbine twin.
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Old 11th May 2005, 17:40
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Bcflyer. My take on that is that the people doing the screening are not aviation people apparantly, at least for the first batch of hiring. Ultimately your resume will be seen by pilot-types so you should include all that info in your resume. Don't just fill out the application, include a good-old-fashion resume and any letters of recc.
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Brucelee,

Thanks again. I had already attached my good old fashioned resume but was curious about the layout of the online form. Thanks for straightening that out.
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Old 11th May 2005, 20:09
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Thanks for all the great info (but keep it coming if you can) regarding hiring rumors.

I've got a University degree, and an Aviation Diploma, as well as a fair bit of large turbo-prop EFIS time. Hopefully, I'll get a call for an interview.

Any info about the technical exam yet?

Later
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Old 12th May 2005, 00:09
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Haven't heard anything about a technical exam yet, have you Inuk?
 
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Geardoor...

Are you refering to the blurb on the AC website ?

I haven't heard about a discrete technical questionnaire as part of selection per se...

If you have completed an ATPL or CPL, surely the technical knowledge is taken as granted...
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Old 12th May 2005, 01:52
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Wow guys, thanks for the info. Much appreciated down here in the tier III's. Cheers!
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Old 12th May 2005, 04:53
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Inuksuk,

Yeah, I was referring to the blurb on the website. I've written a tech quiz as part of another interview, so I assume it would be very similar, if implemented. I have most of the recommended reading material, and know where to get one of the others.

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Old 12th May 2005, 14:52
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I'm a little confused on your salary quote...If the AC pilots took a 15% pay cut, why is the starting pay 20% higher than it was during the last round of new hires?

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Old 12th May 2005, 15:28
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Five yrs ago the flat pay salary for the first two yrs was in the high $40k yr.(i think 47,000). In the real world, you fly more than the minimum so that 50k is a more realistic figure (my T4 can prove that) You then add per diems which amount to anywhere between $7-10k/yr. depending on the equipment you're flying. Do the math yourselves. As far as I know the flat salary was not affectect by the 15% cut and if it was, the amount would be about $3700 less. The new salary structure does include a pay group which kicks in after flat salary. You may or may not be in this group depending on movement. The pay group sucks in my view beacause they average out pay of CRJ(EMB) and RP positions. This means that these positions are all considered the same( $60-70k/yr). In any case, short term pain for long term gain in my view. Still spending two weeks/month at home on average. Heck I should get a part time job somewhere. Is it me or am I repeating the same info a few times now. Anyway hope that answers your question Mr. cessna 150.
 
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Anyone coming into the Red Maple Leaf should take the view it will always be short term pain for long term gain...there is no way around it, and I think this thread has given enough information on the pay, particularly for those who have a genuine desire to join in the fun. But of course, it is all relative, and short term pain might not be that bad, depending where you're joining from.

Again, seems to be a lot of confusion and consternation out there about how much - or how little we get paid, but it's still pretty good for someone like me on the A340/330 sitting in a very good position on the seniority for FOs...

777 here I come! Hope the electronic flight bag fixed next year
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Old 12th May 2005, 17:26
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Inuk. Yesterday in yul an Emerates 777 was in town parked outside Milton's window. Ramp guys took us for a drive to see it. Very impressive. I also took a peek in one of the hangars and noticed a brand new Jazz 705 urge, also very nice. This company will look very different in the near future. Good time to get in, good time to be in me thinks.
 
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Yep, brucelee. The land of the Maple Leaf is a buzzing, and it is a great time to get in and be here - I've always wanted to do an acceptance flight from the factory - so there's plenty opportunity for me to do that from now on in!

I'll be heading through CYUL, but I guess the Emirates 777 will have gone by then. The 777-300 is one impressive looking machine...

Sorry to keep on talking about Irene - but imagine the fun in the crew rest areas....



C150Driver - if you have the total time and experience, why not try ? Go on, treat yourself...

P.S. Just so you lot know we can laugh at ourselves...I spotted this good joke...

What's the difference between a golf ball and clitoris ?
An Air Canada widebody Captain spends all weekend looking
for a golfball...
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Old 12th May 2005, 18:50
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Inuksuk,

with close to 60 EMJ coming this way have you heard if they are all for growth ( minus the 25 CL65) or are they going to replace 320's......

I also have a couple of friends in the pool and before I get their hopes up do you have solid info about their status in the next round of hiring?

I thought the first new hire classes were only for late this year, now hearing July? Have you got that info too....As you seem in the know.

Guess things are about to take off as they did in the mid 90' when layed off pilots would be recalled and be DC 9 skippers 3 years later.........
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Old 12th May 2005, 18:54
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Inuksuk,

Just a comment on a point or two.


1. Previous pool to be hired first and EMB FO or cruise relief on the long haulers will be offered based on need and domicile. If you're based in or around YVR, likely cruise relief is all yours
You may be right about this but I think very few YVR bases will be available for new hires if any, as there are 166 of us comeing back from furlough and I would think as high as a 1/3 rd would love to get a YVR base never mind guys/girls who are still on property and have been waiting for YVR bases for a long time. (I have been told it is highly unlikly I can get a YVR base as none have been offered to returning furloughees this from B. Pope's office)


Re: pay I think brucelee is a little closer to the correct numbers and understand low to mid 40's for the first 2 years (not sure about the 15% off of that, I have heard both versions that flat salary was or was not effected depending on who you talk to)

here is the hourly pay for pay group starting in year three with AC you can do the math I think the guys are flying about 80 hours a month.
Weighted hourly rate
Year Day Night 1/2 D&N
3 59.89 63.11 61.50
4 67.98 73.18 70.58
5 71.16 76.54 73.85
6 74.45 80.02 77.24
7 77.63 83.39 80.51
8 80.74 86.89 83.92
9 84.17 90.29 87.23
10 87.41 93.73 90.57
11 88.56 94.88 91.72
12 89.73 96.04 92.89


the pay group scale changes based on a formula and is recalculated every 2 months these numbers are for March and April
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Old 12th May 2005, 19:27
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29 chev:

Year 2 is $47/48 or so, Year 1 is $43 or so. Add the allowances...
I had heard that the reduction does not come off the flat $

On the YVR base - my comments were based on something accredited to Rob Reid speaking at HQ , but your point about the furloughees is valid...
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Old 12th May 2005, 22:19
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Just got the call today, so I can confirm that the pool is indeed active. Now I just have to get my head around the rather large pay cut. Also, was wondering if passes kick in right away or do you have to wait six months....commuting could be difficult without passes.
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Old 12th May 2005, 23:07
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Inuksuk,

No pain here, it's status quo and up with nothing but screaming VFR ahead if I am so lucky.......good times ahead for many looking forward to better times
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Jumpy737....if you don't mind answering, are you with Jazz or do you know people that we're in the pool flying with Jazz and also received the call!!

I'm with jazz and hoping for a chance like everyone else!
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