well guys and gals

gen aviation, firstly you know nothing about me and the good work on board the a/c, so i'm not about to justify myself.

5 percent - i don't recall having a chitty chat with you and do not remember saying i did, correct me if i am wrong.

spice boy, r you jelous now, i think you r, if you saw cool ek then you would be.

because i said that 9 out of ten briefings r boring, which is true, people r telling me that that means i am boring, or i do not know what i am talking about, or i am immature..........

says alot for the ones holding the briefing.

look, on these posts any one can say what they want or even be who they want to be, but i know that whatever i say is true and correct.. which is probably not the case with the rest of you all.

but i must be making an impact on you all which is a good thing, so shoot me for placing safety as no.1 on the importance list, where as most of you think that service or partying may be more important.

Couldn't agree more...

xtc, far from shooting you, I believe all of the contributors here would agree with you that Flight Safety is the most important thing. So that's some common ground arrived at finally! :)

I also agree with you that many briefings are more boring than they need be, and I am under the impression that most of the contributions on this thread have been with the aim of helping eachother make briefings more interesting. I've picked up some pointers which hopefully will improve my briefings.

I don't see that your posts have made any contribution to how we could improve our briefings. I also fail to see why you insisit on posting stuff that offends a bunch of colleagues who try to help eachother. http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/confused.gif
However, we all get our kicks in different ways. And that I can't understand why you write what you write, only proves the old cliché Different strokes for different folks"

(edited for spelling :) )




[This message has been edited by flapsforty (edited 27 February 2001).]

xtc - I don't remember asking you to justify your position, just pointing out what your postings display about you. True you have no idea who I am - maybe you will have to justify yourself to me one day (who knows).


Meanwhile, listen to Flaps and post how you would improve safety briefings and stop generalising about cabin crew's activities when not flying.



[This message has been edited by GeneralAviation (edited 27 February 2001).]

Guys,guys,guys
start pulling the reins on the horses and slow down abit. I would just like to say that everyone is taking xtc abit to seriously. I am a person who likes to have a say in a good topic and I know so does xtc. Havent you ever just wanted to tell the truth to a passenger that is really annoying you! Well xtc is just telling the truth and there is no need to take it personally. I know you are judging on some of the posts but believe me you couldnt have a better friend on your side than xtc. He is an excellent worker and he give 100% to pax. I as a CSD myself find that some briefings I do do tend to be a bit boring only because some of the crew (at 3 in the morning) dont really give a s?"#. All xtc is saying is that crew should know there stuff and briefings should not be monotonuos.
Fellow crew, do not take these posts personally and try and laugh at the jest at which xtc is displaying. I am 100% sure he is only defending himself at what is being said about him. As sick squid has said lets stick to the topic and not make personal comments which in fact ruin the whole reason we are posting on the message board.

Speak to you all soon.

Oh we are sailing...come give peace a chance. ;)

Oh Dear XTC.....
With you're attitiude, I doubt that you'll see another 3yrs as cabin crew....you may not find the briefings interesting enough to keep your tiny brain stimulated, however don't forget that they're are a huge percentage of F/A's in the industry that take there job seriously, and are very professional.
I just hope that you never have to use you're emergency trainig, as in my opinion you'll be woefully inadequate if you only listen to 5% of what you get asked in pre-flight briefings.

Clear it in:

Learn to spell, and use punctuation correctly BEFORE you blast anyone for their opinions.

WCF

http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/eek.gif
WCF...after your last 2 posts...mainly to correct people spelling or grammar....I was just wondering if you, fed up of your cabin crew life (as far as I can understand)... Would you consider a job as an English teacher? ;)
Maybe, being foreign myself, I could be the first one to get your tuitions :) :)
Oh yes...only one condition.....a radical change of attitude towards life!!!

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Just popped in for a quick visit:

Comeflywithme - guess that if you really don't give a s--t at 0300 your attitude is reflected by people like XTC who find briefings very boring.

If the CSD does't give a damn it is well reflected in the rest of the crew and sign of very bad management on board the aircraft.

Some crew have the experience to be well rested and fit to fly at any time - basically reflecting the reason they are employed - brief a crew well - have a good rapport on aircraft and all crew and passengers can go home happy! Service industry at its best I guess!

On the subject of not being able to tell a passenger you are annoyed with them - a little thing that comes with maturity and experience - can be expressed in very nice manner and both come out friends hence good service and passenger that returns.

Positive attitude can count for a lot in life.

XTC may be a 100% person for passengers in your eyes but in other airlines may only measure up about 30% in attitude towards work and consideration for others which is a very important quality in life.

WCF

sure we don't know your age and professional pedigree, but sure we do know the extent of your immaturity. Yours and xtc. Mature persons are constructively critical, not destructively mean. As Flaps pointed out, you just gossip around slandering people and cathegories without proposing anything constructive. Real masterpiece the post about the spelling. It really qualifies you (how many languages do you speak by the way?). It is the typical mean of those who don't have argumentds: attack the form not the substance. There, I will put some nice and proper spelling misHtakes in order to make you feel superior. Happy?

Ok folks, let's put the kids to bed, too much attention they got until now, and let's start discussing in the usual adult way.

Well, well, well... thought this one had ran it's course, but no.

I'm closing it down. All useful debate has gone on what was a potentially very good topic, despite the actions of several people over and above yours truly to keep it on track... thank you to them, you know who you are.

As I said earlier play the ball, not the player. If someone is antagonising you, just ignore them.... silence can be more deafening than shouting sometimes. If you have nothing constructive or interesting to add to a thread, then please think 3 times before pressing 'send.' Threads do evolve, and it is part of my role as moderator to try to ensure they do that naturally...it is a credit to the overall standard of debate on this forum that I very rarely feel the need to step in.

May I recommend the JetBlast forum for those who do not agree with the above. Plenty of scope for debate and wind-up in there, and you also get to show just how clever you are occasionally.

While I'm here, another thing... any further posts from any member of either the "Spelling Police" or the "Special Punctuation Squad" which do nothing other than assert that persons superior perceived grasp of the English language, will be deleted. All they do is distract from the topic of the thread, antagonise contributors and potentially lead to the kind of pathetic name-calling that existed under this topic.

If you have a problem with that, well, tough, take it to the English Teachers Rumour Network. This is a forum for flying and for flyers in all their many colours... if you really must correct anyone, go over to Seattle and tell Mr Boeing how to spell "a.e.r.o.p.l.a.n.e" first.

To sum up... keep them on topic, don't slag each other off (it's very cheap to do so under the guise of anonymity) and don't waist the server bandwith with "Well, if you can't spell you shouldn't be complaining!" See, I can't spell waste, and I'm complaining, ergo, it's OK!

Sick Squid
Cabin Crew Forum Moderator

(Edited, but for neither punctuation nor spelling... content and meaning are more important. Along with not slagging off your mates just because you can.)



[This message has been edited by Sick Squid (edited 17 April 2001).]