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smartalec888 8th August 2007 07:48

To all those going to the NTL afternoon tea on 17/8...

Were any of you people at the NTL assessment centre back in late July? Anyone in the morning group? If so which table were you at? There were only 22 of us in the morning group, so I'm sure we would have seen each other there. I was at table one.

PM me please.

Btw Regionalgirl, if you're who I think you are you were at my table (table 1).

Cheers.

smartalec888 8th August 2007 07:50

I get the feeling we will be seeing more of A320_galleybitch... especially as his/her profile says their in NTL.

Two of my references were contacted yesterday btw.

sinala1 8th August 2007 09:19

http://www.faaadomestic.org.au/news.asp?id=989


1 August 2007
JET12-07


CABIN CREW COMPLEMENT
Jetstar announced in FSO 163/07 on 30 July that CASA has granted the airline approval to commence 4 Cabin Crew Operations on A320 aircraft, effective 6 August 2007.

It is matter of considerable concern to the FAAA that changes as significant as these are being introduced by Jetstar without a single word of consultation with your union – despite Jetstar’s commitment to do so.
Whilst the FSO explains that “Jetstar will initially continue to plan and roster 5 Cabin Crew” on all flights, it also advises that 5 crew operations may be reduced to 4 to meet operational requirements.

In these circumstances Jetstar is no longer guaranteeing that passenger numbers will be automatically reduced to 144 to adjust for the reduction in crew complement. It appears 4 crew operations will now be required to depart with a full passenger complement of 177.

Despite categorical assurances given by Jetstar that it would consult and with the FAAA before introducing any such change it appears Jetstar plans to introduce reduced crew operations without any trials or consideration of how cabin crew will cope with service delivery.

Under the heading Turnaround Management, the FSO proposes that turnaround requirements will be met by performing some existing turnaround duties in flight. Five crew operations currently struggle to meet service delivery on many flights. It is unrealistic to assume that a reduced crew operation will now be able to provide a full service as well as perform additional duties in flight.

At a Joint Consultative Committee (JCC) meeting on 18 July in Melbourne the FAAA raised this issue and requested full consultation and ongoing discussions. The FAAA identified a number of key concerns that needed to be fully resolved before cabin crew could be fairly expected to perform new duties or changed arrangements.

The issues identified by the FAAA are:
• OH&S considerations in relation to cabin safety (procedures for emergency evacuation etc)
• Workload and service delivery
• Industrial issues (relevant rates of pay etc)
• Turnaround requirements

Jetstar gave an unequivocal commitment to the FAAA representatives at the meeting that no change would be introduced until these issues were discussed.

Your Union has requested an urgent meeting with Jetstar to discuss and resolve these important issues.

We want to assure FAAA members that we will do everything within our power to protect your interests, and will now demand that the proposed cabin crew complement changes are delayed to allow proper discussions to occur.
I am sorry you folks are copping this too, at Virgin Blue it was brought in earlier this year on our B738's. Suffice to say service standards have been affected, even though the company has made some concessions - the biggest being that the caterers put our catering away for us now. This unfortunately is of no assistance inflight, particularly for the allocation of crew breaks, which on a 4 sector day with 4 crew will usually mean no one gets a break - and its rare the CS will actually get a chance to eat food properly (inhaling a cheese & biscuits whilst counting the money does not count) - at least the rear based crew get a few minutes of quiet time after securing the cabin before the "double ding". Lets hope the FAAA fights this for you - unfortunately they happily accepted it for us :*

lemmegetback2u 8th August 2007 11:47

It was bound to happen sooner or later in fact I am suprised it has taken this long for JQ to get rid of the 5th crew member.

Have fun boys and girls.

PattyStacker 9th August 2007 01:50

Oh well.... Bring on the rest break forms
more money in my pocket. More sick days to use

A320 galleybitch 9th August 2007 14:07

I'm sorry to say this smartalec888, but you will never know who I am. If you become CC you will never ever find out who I really am, you might work with me everyday, but a smart Galleybitch never tells:).

As for the min crew saga. We are still being rostered 5 crew per flight. Crewing will use up all avail and live day crew to cover any shortages, but will not call in crew from days off. This straight from horses (crewing) mouth.

roamingwolf 9th August 2007 21:04

Best Cabin Crew Australia/Pacific (low cost and full service)

huh?

Mr Seatback 2 10th August 2007 00:31

Says a lot, doesn't it?

A_B_P 10th August 2007 23:42

roamingwolf, sorry probably should have typed lowcost OR full service.

As in JQ cabin crew were voted to be the best against Qantas, Virgin, Air New Zealand etc.

Hope this clarifies.:)

roamingwolf 11th August 2007 00:58

low cost and full service/lowcost OR full service.

sorry mate but whats the diff.what flights do jetstar do that are full service

A_B_P 11th August 2007 07:38

Jetstar do not do full service but the airlines that they were up against for "Best Cabin Crew" are. The award was given to the best cabin staff in the Australia/Pacific region which includes all low cost AND full service carriers.

Is this not making sense? :confused:

TightSlot 11th August 2007 07:47


Is this not making sense?
Yes, it is - The thread is being sniped at, that's all - shall we move on?

A320 galleybitch 11th August 2007 13:01

I'll simplify things. 1 minute we are Australia's WORST airline. Now we are Australia's BEST.

Too easy.

Are there any other issues which anyone needs me to simplify???????????

lowerlobe 12th August 2007 01:46

Your right A320 galleybitch..It was too easy

roamingwolf 12th August 2007 07:13

tightslot.not sniping mate just trying to show that the result is comparing apples and oranges thats all.

TightSlot 12th August 2007 08:16

Thanks Mr. Wolf - However, I would now like this thread to move on and away from here...


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