Security & Check-in Staff too...I have a p/t ground job at a regional airport and there are “Lifeline flights” going twice a day.
As well as Medical, Cargo or Mail. |
Originally Posted by Radgirl
(Post 10733072)
As always pilot DAR you make a good point and I appreciate pilots need hard facts. However, the medicine is fast moving, and the time taken to publish facts means references wont appear for months.
My posts are based on my conversations with colleagues in China and Europe treating patients on ITU and my planning to keep my own doctors and nurses safe. I will provide peer reviewed publications where I can. In the case of droplets vs aerosols CDC has changed some positions in the last 5 days. I stand by what I posted based on the above plus my knowledge of the airway and many decades in ITU. However we should be looking at the bigger picture of what to do to keep cc safe. If someone gets infected they dont really care if it was a droplet or an aerosol. I am not here to win arguments but to offer advice. Can we agree that CC in a highly loaded commercial aircraft are at risk and that normal surgical masks do not provide full protection, certainly if not properly donned and doffed and if working for a protracted time Stay safe |
Originally Posted by Radgirl
(Post 10733072)
Can we agree that CC in a highly loaded commercial aircraft are at risk and that normal surgical masks do not provide full protection, certainly if not properly donned and doffed and if working for a protracted time
Stay safe |
Flying 2 sectors after the 1st flight
Below is from the CDC.
The problem with the CDC and WHO recommendations is that passengers who have not been symptomatic have been spreading the virus, on flights. That is a fact, look at the articles about cruise ship passengers being brought home. The CDC/WHO recommendations have changed as the virus evolves and clearly there are many things the experts do not know, so better to be on the side of prevention, with common sense. Here the recommendation from the CDC, recommends wearing a PPE for cleaning, for flight attendants or cleaning personnel, certain airlines are still asked to do cleaning after the 1st sector. See the difference between the procedures between symptomatic passengers and non symptomatic passengers. We do agree that PPEs should go to doctors and nurses, etc first, Interesting to note with the shortages that PPEs can still be purchased on Amazon https://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/air/m...-airlines.html
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In response to the request for publications, this paper is doing the rounds of my colleagues
https://doi.org/10.1101/2020.03.23.20039446 Please click on the link at the top right to view the paper itself I am posting this to help readers to form their own opinion, not to nit pick. I and many other hospitals in the UK are moving to universal precautions ie we are assuming every patient and every colleague is infected and contagious. We may be wrong, we may be over reacting, but I would rather be wrong than feel responsible for anyone being infected Stay safe |
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