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peekay4 14th Oct 2016 01:58

Delta crew refused to believe black woman was a doctor during emergency
 
"Tamika Cross, a Houston OB/GYN, was on a Delta flight earlier this week when, as she explained in a Facebook post on Sunday, she realized a passenger in front of her was clearly in distress." ...

While asking for a physician onboard the plane, the flight attendant refuses to believe that Ms. Cross, a black woman, is a doctor.

"I raised my hand to grab her attention," Cross wrote. "She said to me, 'Oh no sweetie put your hand down, we are looking for actual physicians or nurses or some type of medical personnel, we don't have time to talk to you.' I tried to inform her that I was a physician but I was continually cut off by condescending remarks."

Cross had to explain again that she was a physician — and even then, she said, the flight attendant asked "to see her credentials" — all while the sick passenger was still in need of help.

https://mic.com/articles/156707/delt...g-an-emergency

https://www.facebook.com/tamika.cros...58443077654049

nonsense 14th Oct 2016 02:00

Plane crew almost lets man die because they refuse to believe black woman is a doctor. | Workplace | Someecards

Rwy in Sight 14th Oct 2016 05:22

Old southern habits do die hard.

fox niner 14th Oct 2016 05:49

And it has nothing to do with aviation. Would be more appropriate in the Professional Social Studies Rumor Network. (PssRuNe)

Noxegon 14th Oct 2016 06:04

I was wondering whether this might be a hoax, but having researched it it is apparently true:

Delta Airlines Accused of 'Blatant' Discrimination : snopes.com

Huck 14th Oct 2016 06:49


Old southern habits do die hard.
Flight was from Detroit to Minneapolis. Likely a crew from one of those bases. But whatever floats your boat.

Huck
The South

Rwy in Sight 14th Oct 2016 08:22

I was referring to the company culture. Delta has its base in Atlanta isn't.

Basil 14th Oct 2016 10:06

Could have been a misunderstanding but a BIGOT! RACIST! story sells more copies.
The statement by Dr Cross: "I'm sure many of my fellow young, corporate America working women of color can all understand my frustration when I say I'm sick of being disrespected. " does seem to betray a certain mindset. Jest sayin'

p.s. [OBJECTIVISATION]She can revive me any time she wants[/OBJECTIVISATION] ;)

170to5 14th Oct 2016 10:21

I believe the whole issue was due to unexpected light chop...

RAT 5 14th Oct 2016 10:21

Was this Delta (major) or a subsidiary 'express' operator? No reason for lower standards of service, but just wondering, as in-house training and company culture might be different.

2ndly, does that operator have any black pilots? I suspect yes. So what would be the reaction to "is there a pilot on board who can save us from disaster?" In the back is a very dark looking training captain on type, but with no licence, who volunteers. What then?

And this in a land where Obama looks much more presidential than Trump. Not as rich, but has more aura & presence.

beardy 14th Oct 2016 11:06

All of which begs the questions that when the crew ask for a doctor and somebody volunteers, how do they know they have got a real doctor and not a fantasist, and if it goes wrong somehow, who is liable?

notapilot15 14th Oct 2016 11:19

RA should reinstate himself as CEO for a day and fire the FA for treating a Texan badly, just kidding.

wiggy 14th Oct 2016 12:11

Beardy

This was discussed recently elsewhere on prune but can't find the thread at the moment.

In short has to be on trust though some docs will have credentials and if comms allow there may be ways for the crew to carry out a limited check via the airlines own medical service provider.

ATC Watcher 14th Oct 2016 12:31

Looking at the news coming from the US in the last months being black or being a woman is still not easy in the US. The "holywood" stereotype of a MD is still that of a 50+ white male. The F/A probably did not think further. A young black woman cannot be a MD...
Not thinking further seems to be common nowadays , looking at the current US election debate..

cwatters 14th Oct 2016 13:19

Perhaps she just looks a bit young to be a doctor?

Turbine D 14th Oct 2016 13:26


Was this Delta (major) or a subsidiary 'express' operator?
Delta Flight 945 is a 1 1/2 hour flight using a 737-900.

And it has nothing to do with aviation.
So it didn't happen on an airplane?

Airbubba 14th Oct 2016 14:00


Originally Posted by beardy (Post 9540628)
All of which begs the questions that when the crew ask for a doctor and somebody volunteers, how do they know they have got a real doctor and not a fantasist, and if it goes wrong somehow, who is liable?

Surely you're not suggesting that someone would falsely claim to be a doctor like these hyphenated surname guys:

Teen accused of being a fake doctor arrested again - CNN.com

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2326254


Originally Posted by Basil (Post 9540581)
Could have been a misunderstanding but a BIGOT! RACIST! story sells more copies.
The statement by Dr Cross: "I'm sure many of my fellow young, corporate America working women of color can all understand my frustration when I say I'm sick of being disrespected. " does seem to betray a certain mindset. Jest sayin'

And she calls the flight attendant a 'heifer' and then complains about profiling due to appearance. ;)

G0ULI 14th Oct 2016 14:25

Prefering a male doctor to treat a male casualty is racist?!

Herod 14th Oct 2016 15:52


Prefering a male doctor to treat a male casualty is racist?!
Oh, come on!! What if there was no male doctor on board? I don't think she was going to have to examine his dangly bits, and even if she was, I'm sure she was professional enough to do the right thing.

alwayzinit 14th Oct 2016 17:16

To be fair to the FAs all those who claim to be Docs are assumed otherwise ......... UNTIL their identity and qualification has been confirmed, by getting their licence number or ID crosschecked.
To allow anyone to carry out any medical procedure on anyone without being confirmed as a Doc is potty.
Once again offence is taken,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


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