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TightSlot 30th Sep 2010 14:34


Originally Posted by trex450
more than a few thousand hours command time

Command of what, exactly? I ask because I cannot see any commercial pilot behaving as you did: They tend to be rather more familiar with the process and etiquette involved in these situations. Since your profile does not contain information about your 'Command' time, or flying qualifications, I did a search of your previous posts. It would appear that your 'Command' time is in charge of GA aircraft, with some non-flying military experience involved?
If you are, in fact, the Captain of a commercial airline jet, and have obtained your few thousand hours in that role, then I will apologise (although this should ideally be reflected in your user profile to avoid any possible confusion).

What happened to you trex450 is a pretty normal event, dealt with routinely by CC all over the world on a daily basis. What made your experience different was that you refused to comply. I can't speak for the attitude of an individual CC since I wasn't there: Since your behaviour had been detailed by yourself, it is possible to assess that more accurately.

You were given a clear instruction by a crew member and refused to comply. We don't go about our daily business amending the safety procedures in order to comply with the imaginary degree of proficiency of individual passengers. You may have heard a 'crew seat for take-off' PA, but apparently know little enough of the industry to appreciate that it is not the cue for individual passengers to decide to comply (or not) with regulations. Your hypothetical familiarity with the PA, the airfield, and indeed, anything else that may happen is, in this instance, sadly irrelevant.

Your behaviour in this instance, allied with your views on the OP's W&B incident have 'outed' you as not being quite what you would like to be - If not in your mind, at least to airline staff on PPRuNe.

Seldomfitforpurpose 30th Sep 2010 14:47

Tightslot,

Bloody well said and absolutely spot on :ok:

trex450 30th Sep 2010 19:41

Tightslot,
Having read back through earlier comments I should apologise for the tone of them, I was rather tired and grumpy myself this morning. I have been reminded by my better half that the cc in case while not entirely happy at the situation appeared to be sufficiently satisfied with it due to my familiarity with the aircraft etc and the general mood of the surrounding pax and his proximity to us.:O

Something that this does throw up though of course is the real safety of a sub two year old sitting on the lap of an 18 stone adult for take off/landing. It may be law but it does not take a rocket scientist two realise that the child is far from best placed in the event of a rapid deceleration!

SeenItAll 30th Sep 2010 20:52

Warning, this is pure speculation, but one possible reason for the CC's attempt to move pd2 a few rows aft could be that he was sitting in an emergency exit row (pd2 only described his seating position as "over the wing"). Perhaps the CC had some reason to believe pd2 was not an appropriate occupant of such a seat -- thus the request to move, and by only a short distance. Just a thought ...

Di_Vosh 30th Sep 2010 22:42

It has been said that doctors are poor patients. Perhaps pilots are poor passengers?

I was asked once to move from row 1A to row 1D on an airbus A320 due to W&B reasons. :eek:

So I moved seats!

Pretty simple really!

DIVOSH!


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