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99jolegg 24th Oct 2008 10:08

Theft of charity donations
 
In a London paper yesterday...

Air stewardess stole up to £100,000 of passenger charity donations - mirror.co.uk


Originally Posted by The Mirror
A British Airways hostess stole up to £100,000 of passengers’ charity donations.

Gillian Paterson, 36, faces jail after stashing cash left on planes for the children’s charity Unicef.

She was rumbled after dozens of ripped Unicef envelopes were found in her car when it was valeted.

Confronted by the Mirror outside her £300,000 detached home she said: “I don’t know what I can say. I must ring my solicitor.”

Paterson – who has boasted of paying off her mortgage – insisted on being the crew member on flights responsible for collecting donations, a court heard.

She is on bail until sentencing next month after a jury convicted her of stealing cash over 12 months up to November 2007. It is feared she may have taken donations throughout a 10-year BA career.

Sources say that could total £100,000 of coins and notes in many currencies.

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Judge Angela Morris told her: “This is a breach of trust of your employers, it is a breach of trust of Unicef and a breach of trust of passengers who gave cash. To put it mildly, it is a triple whammy.”

Prosecutor Alison Barker told Isleworth crown court in West London that Paterson left her car with valeting staff at Gatwick Airport. The lawyer explained: “She told them she did not want the boot cleaned.

“When the man came to the back seats, he was aware of coins and torn envelopes.

“He saw they were charity envel-opes and a supervisor called police.”
Paterson, of Angmering, West Sussex, claimed to be “a Unicef champion”, promoting the charity on flights by showing a short film.

She denied theft and suggested the envelopes became torn by being flung around in the car boot.

Paterson recalled “forgetting” to deposit a bag of Unicef donations.
BA suspended the hostess when allegations were made. Found guilty, she quit before she could be sacked.


MrWomble 24th Oct 2008 10:26

I read that, £100,000 in those small envelopes either means she stole more than "dozens" or the amount in each of those envelopes is a lot more than leftover holiday change?!

ZimmerFly 25th Oct 2008 02:41

She was found guilty, I think "Alleged" in the title is not appropriate.:=

It has happened before, it will happen again.

Domestos 29th Oct 2008 02:24

I can understand employees stealing from employers...but how could you steal from children? That is a low, poor act and is totally disgusting. I have no sympathy for this F/A whatsoever. At Qantas, we go around the cabin at descent and collect Unicef money from passengers. This bag is then security sealed and placed and locked into the duty free cart. How the hell can this F/A justify having the envelopes in her car???? Stupid cow!!!! I hope she is severely punished for stealing from poor children and I hope her face is splashed everywhere for all to see.

uz32 29th Oct 2008 09:53

I can't understand any kind of stealing. Stealing from your employer is still theft.

Domestos 29th Oct 2008 10:56

uz32 (from tin shed in Darwin)....nothing revolutionary about your views on theft. We all know theft is theft, regardless of the victim, and we all know it is bad. You've missed the point of this thread....we are talking about a flight attendant who has stolen money from poor third world children here. I know that if it came down to EITHER: (1) stealing from our company or (2) stealing from poor children....I think 99.99% of any decent human being would choose the former. Not sure what sort of value beliefs you uphold uz32 ???

uz32 29th Oct 2008 12:06

I am sure that 100% of decent people would not choose either form of theft.

Domestos 29th Oct 2008 12:30

Yes I couldn't agree with you more uz32. 100% of decent people would not choose to steal from anyone. But of that same group of people, I'm sure that if they HAD TO (lets just say for argument's sake that they HAD TO) steal from EITHER their company or the children, then they would PREFER to steal from their company rather than children. Does that make sense???? Oh my dear uz32 from Darwin, you love a bit of online pot stirring don't you? You're still missing my point and the point of the orginal thread starter. LOL. You're good uz32...I like you very much....(no pun or insult intended).

str8 hostie 8th Nov 2008 21:50

its not only BA it happens to it has happened at my airline aswell! thieving is wrong be it from employers, third world children or old people in the street.:mad:

Domestos 9th Nov 2008 05:43

....nah sorry...I still would rather steal from my employer than from third world kids. I love stealing post it notes and writing pads and paper clips. It gives me such a buzz. Everyday I go to work, I stake out an inconspicuous position near the stationery cabinet...and when no one is watching, I make a beeline to the cabinet....I've done really well...I've stolen about 263 paperclips now (in all assorted rainbow colours except purple).....my next project is to steal a stapler and a holepunch. The holepunch that I want has the adjustable papersetting for various paper sizes....oh I looooove it and I want it sooooooo bad.

99jolegg 11th Nov 2008 07:44

This was in the papers again yesterday night as the trial is over and she has been "sentenced".

£13,000 fine (£1000 for each money she offended on her 13 month campaign), 200 hrs unpaid work and a suspended jail sentence for 50 weeks, suspended for 2 years.

Quite a detailed article:
British Airways stewardess who stole £100,000 from passengers' charity donations escapes jail | Mail Online

BA stewardess 'stole £100,000' given to charity by passengers | News

EDIT: I'd get rid of the alleged from the title, but I don't think it can be changed now.

Domestos 11th Nov 2008 09:39

Thanks for the update. I'm so glad she has been found guilty and that her fugly cow face has been splashed out for all to see. Shame on you cow for stealing money from kids. If I were the judge, I would force her to do labour in third world countries and get the cow to explain to the kids why she stole their money.

ZFT 11th Nov 2008 09:46

Am I missing the plot? Steal £100,000 and 'pay back' £13,000. Nice profit of £87,000 plus interest.

Seems crime does pay rather well these days!

99jolegg 11th Nov 2008 10:13

I thought that too, but I assume either they couldn't prove the £100,000 (full amount) was taken, or that they recovered it and made her pay costs on top.

niknak 11th Nov 2008 11:25

The legal sentence is something she can probably live with, what she'll almost certainly find harder is that she'll almost certainly be sacked (if she hasn't resigned already), she'll find it very hard to find any work in this, or any other industry which requires a CRB check every year and, since very few people look after airborne SLF because the money is the number one attraction, I suspect she'll miss the job itself.
Clearly she's a selfish, brazen and cowardly individual, but she must have some life/friends outwith work and hopefully she'll lose that as well.

Add all of that to the sentence & fine and we can only wish her everything she deserves.

Dan Air 87 11th Nov 2008 20:02

Does make you wonder what actually happens to the small envelopes you hand to the crew when you leave.

OzzieO 11th Nov 2008 20:29

Dan Air 87 they are placed into a large plastic bag and deposited back at base.

This is a isolated incident nothing more.

Tudor 12th Nov 2008 12:51


This is a isolated incident nothing more.
But it's not Ozzie that's the thing. Just over two years ago a crew bag full of charity money was found behind a garden shed at a flight attendant's house*. I don't know what the outcome of this case was but it shows it's not an isolated incident.

Having said that even if your money does reach the charity how do you know what's done with it? How do you think organisations like the Salvation Army pay for their flashy new HQ in the City of London?

By the way...36??? The words "round", "tough" and "paper" spring to mind...

(* I haven't mentioned particulars as I was working for the police at the time and, understandably, I'd be breaching all kinds of acts were I to divulge specific information)

Domestos 12th Nov 2008 13:29

Oh my god that thought makes me physically sick :yuk:.....a crew bag full of stolen charity money hidden behind a garden shed. If I knew the F/A involved...I would go so far as setting that person's garden on fire (without the charity money in it of course). Obviously the cops had been given a tip off from other crew about this person?

Karma will catch up with these people I am sure of that. I hope they come back in the next life as a pubic louse, living in the bum hairs of a dehydrated camel.

boardingpass 12th Nov 2008 13:41

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/...72_468x465.jpg
36 years old? she looks 50. I have to agree with Domestos, what a fugly cow face.

flying cat 12th Nov 2008 13:45

this happened in my company too. the other crew bacame suspicious and like 99.99% of decent crew members reported her. were the police called? no indeed. this person was allowed to take voluntary redundancy and got a nice big golden handshake for her troubles. dispicable individual and a dispicably cowardly display of treatment by airline management.
we are all very careful of our handling of this money, it is collected in special sealable bags by 2 cabin crew, placed into a locked and sealed container until return to base and then deposited in the bank by 2 other crew members. stealing is disgusting in any form but i agree with domestos, this is even more disgusting as its taking money and shelter from the mouths of the most ill and deprived children in the world. the wheel turns, maybe slowly, but in the end karma will always catch up with you.

OzzieO 12th Nov 2008 14:27

Consider the amounts of flights.

Consider the amount of donations.

I still say this sort of thing happens once in a while so would make it an isolated incident.

And to make personal comments about Gillians apperance is just childish.

Domestos 12th Nov 2008 14:45

...."comments about Gillian childish"??????????? Get a grip! With all the money she has taken from Unicef, you would have thought she could have done something useful with it like get liposuction and major cosmetic surgery......but NO! She had to spend it all on "choclit" biscuits.....maybe she was fed up with her previous diet of "dust"....anyone? no?

Tudor 12th Nov 2008 15:28


Consider the amounts of flights.

Consider the amount of donations.

I still say this sort of thing happens once in a while so would make it an isolated incident.
You're not getting it are you Ozzie? She is said to have stolen £100,000 of this charity money. The crew bag from behind the shed was so heavy it could barely be lifted off the floor. Do you think all this money was stolen on one flight? These thefts obviously occurred over a lengthy period of times on a hell of a lot of flights so that hardly makes them isolated and I'm not sure why you're at such pains to stress that they are. Also bear in mind how much theft occurs (from anywhere) that is never discovered.

No doubt, after your sycophantic defence of the "Facebook 13", you're working on a similar defence for this woman (or "Gillian" as you cloyingly refer to her as - she's not your girlfriend is she :} )

OzzieO 12th Nov 2008 15:41

No I am not defending her as I am gay and probably not really her type.

Yes I do get it actually and I am not defending her actions for one moment.

However try to look at the bigger picture. Might be hard for some of you but go on give it a try.

Tudor 12th Nov 2008 15:54

If you explain what you mean by "the bigger picture" then I'll try and have a look at it. As far as I can see you're adamant that it's an isolated incident when there are at least three other people on this thread (including me) who say it has happened at other airlines. When you consider this forum is, realistically, used by a tiny percentage of cabin crew worldwide, this hints at these types of theft being anything but isolated incidents. So, perhaps it's you who isn't seeing the bigger picture?

Incidentally, does anyone know why airlines are so philanthropically inclined and which was the first airline to introduce charity collections onboard?

Domestos 12th Nov 2008 15:59

...yes we are looking at the "bigger picture"...a picture of a very big woman who "loves a bit of cake...yeah?"

No one is saying that you are defending her. Its just that the tone of your post sounded as if this "isolated incident" is condonable. Yes it may be an isolated incident, but that doesn't make it tolerable or acceptable. I'm sure there are lots of trolley dollies out there who have committed varying degrees of theft (like my paperclip fetish)....but the point we are trying to make here is that this woman has committed a crime...irrespective of whether it happens everyday or seldom. The fact that she got caught and her lard face has been splashed in the press should act as a warning to all those Unicef theives out there.

OzzieO 12th Nov 2008 16:04

Am I defending her actions? No.

Do you know this woman? Probably not.

And yes considering the amount of money donated to the charity I still think its a isolated incident.

As for my tone well sorry you feel that way.

strake 12th Nov 2008 16:06

I hadn't really taken too much notice of this until I flew to Linate today and the Unicef announcement came on. Whereas before, I wouldn't think twice about putting some change in, one can't help thinking about the case as you open the envelope.
There appear to be two losers here, the kids and honest cabin crew who must feel very uncomfortable about the whole thing.
Anyway, I have to believe that the money I've given over the last 15 or so years has gone exactly where it's supposed to and on that basis, I'm still giving.:ok:

Little_Red_Hat 12th Nov 2008 16:07

PMSL Domestos, god you've had some classics over the last few days... but 'choclit biscuits' has to take the cake (no pun intended!) :}

Regardless of how often it does or doesn't happen, it's a disgusting crime and there with the lowest... stealing from starving and dying children, really!!

I just about had a nervous breakdown when I once discovered a Unicef envelope in my apron, I had put it there when a passenger handed it to me, had a week off and forgot about it. I felt so bad I matched the amount written on the outside as my own way of making up for being so late putting it in at the crew centre... how anyone could not feel bad about actually STEALING this money.... boggles the mind...:ugh:

I do wonder how she slept at night, and as they said, it's not like she was stealing it for medical bills or to feed herself the basic life necessities... (not that it would be an excuse either but you know what I mean!)

Domestos 12th Nov 2008 16:33

Look OssieO...I'm not having a dig at you at all and I respect that you may have a different perspective on the situation. So we will leave it at that.

No...you are right...I don't know Gillian....I got kicked out of 'Fat Fighters' because I didn't pass the weigh in.

Litte Red Hat....like I've said before...I've been exposed to too much cosmic radiation.

OzzieO 12th Nov 2008 17:52

Its ok I don't take things personally.

The world would be a boring place if we all agreed on the same thing.

T4Turtle 12th Nov 2008 22:13

Gillian Paterson
 
I say bring back medieval stocks and let's lock up Gillian Paterson outside LHR and throw rotten tomatoes at her! A non custodial sentence is not a deterrent as Gillian has clearly demonstrated that she has profited from her greed, however, this is an immeasurable sum that a court cannot assume. What an awful individual Gillian Paterson is and those of a similar disposition!

radeng 13th Nov 2008 10:15

I would have thought that the trouble involved in collecting the change in the various currencies, taking it somewhere you can change it into notes, bringing it back and getting it changed wasn't worthwhile. After all most banks won't touch coins. I wonder if the full story has come out yet?Not that I have any sympathy for her....

99jolegg 13th Nov 2008 10:39

I suppose her sentence is far more reaching...it's with her for a long time. She won't get work in the aviation industry again and probably won't get work in a customer service role, or any other role that demands a lot of trust.

In fact, any recruiter that types her name into Google to see if there is a bit of background to her, will see her on the archives of those press articles...picture and all!

So I would say her punishment seems fairly complete...

Beer_n_Tabs 13th Nov 2008 13:18


And to make personal comments about Gillians apperance is just childish.
This is true..........

But....................

She does have a face like a smacked arse :ok:

Theres no getting away from it.......well I suppose there is if you steal 100K from kids, but she decided to pay off the mortgage instead of paying to get her 'boat-race' fixed.

Insults about her appearance !!........pah, the cow deserves everything she gets I say. It would make a fine addition to my day to hope that the ugly bint was reading all the insults about her on here.

Lots of Love
Beer_n-Tabs :}


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