Keeponsmiling I think you hit the nail on the head with this one- we need to take this all back to safety. Wouldn't it be great if we could do all our hours in 10 days (ie 10 x 14 hour shifts) and then get the rest of the month off. BUT.... how safe would that be. OK so slight exaggeration but can you see my point. I can’t understand how working ourselves to the brink of collapse is a good thing. Doesn’t that just contradict the purpose of our job! To be effective crew we need to be alert. :zzz: :E

Hey Guys,
Does anyone know when virgin blue are hiring next in brisbane.
Thanks!

Hi All!
I am about to move to Brisbane soon to start training VERY excited of course, however, was wondering if anyone could fill me in on what to expect of both life in Brisbane and of training! Any tips would be really fantastic! Thanks all, and hope everyone is having a fabulous day :)

wirgin blew...Still waiting for your response to VB's on seatbelt signs?

What is VB stand on the crew working during the seat belt sign?

Lowerlobe - VB's stand is "safety first" which basically leaves it up to the Captain, Supervisor and Crew to decide when it is unsafe to continue service. I have never felt the need to stop the service but that is just me. I have however not started the service on numerous occasions due to turbulence. The longest was about 90mins after takeoff from CNS which was a great way to start the day ;-).
EBA discussions continue as far as I am aware and Jun 07 was a date mentioned by a FAAA rep for those who were asking.
As for the GalleyFM we will see if these people are correct or not in a matter of due course. It is however hard to stay out of the discussions as this is what a lot of people are talking about at the moment which can only be a good thing. The more people talk about it the more people will read the document when it comes out.

:-)

Just an observation..... many of you are talking about "when the new EBA comes out" and "what will be in it" and that there's a lot of rumour and gossip.

I would have thought you should have a team of FAAA delegates negotiating with DJ management and keeping all members informed of the progress with regular communication. Then when it gets to it's final draft stage and your FAAA members make a preliminary vote on the new EBA, you are all well aware of what you is contained in the new document.

That's the way EBA negotiations usually happen. Just an observation.

Flitegirl I am not sure if FAAA memebrs are recieving any communications from the union regarding the progress of different things to be included/excluded from the EBA, however non-members are getting nothing from anyone - the silence is deafening - so without fact, rumourmills will start... The last roadshows were back in July I think? Since then, we have not really seen or heard much about whats going on.

I have been through a number of EBA negotiations and as an outsider looking in, can I suggest you put pressure on the FAAA domestic division to keep you regularly updated. Do you have union reps and delegates among your flight attendant ranks? Put the pressure on them to keep you informed, and represent you collectively so that you have more power at the negotiation table. That's why you pay your fees. Please don't sit back and wait for them to present you with a draft that you haven't had any input into its content. Perhaps the FAAA domestic division need a little bit of proverbial wind up them, and perhaps your flight attendant reps aren't doing their jobs properly. With a company your size, I imagine you have fomally elected union officials in BNE and MEL... what have their roles been? Phone them, email them, whatever... but put the pressure on them to keep you informed.

Flitegirl our negotiations have been going on for nearly 18 months from what I understand. At this point in time I am not an FAAA Member - I was, and I resigned my membership (for various reasons that I don't need to go into here - none of them have anything to do with the cost of the membership) so as I mentioned above I am unaware of what members are recieving from the company - but yes our elected delegates have worked incredibly hard with the crumbs they have been given to work with. The delegates even took a trip to Westjet in Canada to have a look first hand at Cronos, the new bidding/roster optimiser systham that we will be moving on to.

I understand what you're saying. However as an observer, it concerns me that so many people are making comments like "when the EBA comes out make sure you read it so you know what you're voting on". If the FAAA dometic division is representing you guys properly, you should all be well informed regarding the negotiations before you get to the voting stage. The draft EBA should be a confirmation of what you all already know. There should be no 'surprises'. At the moment it sounds like it's just a big mystery to a lot of you. I'm not at all being critical, just trying to help. It seems like you guys need to put pressure on the right people to get some information flowing. However it may be different for FAAA members.

I'm an FAAA member and I get eba newsletters - probably one a week. They either update us on where things are at - or they have MYTH Busters attached about galleyFM.

Thanks adam.... that answers the question then. I guess those who aren't "in the loop" are non members. SO.... you should all sign up! It's so important to be represented in the current aviation environment.

Agreed - however I had very valid reasons for resigning my membership from the FAAA, and make no apology for that... That said though I am considering rejoining, depending on the agreement that gets presented to us for consideration.

Embraer Jets
 

Hi guys,

Will current cabin crew be trained on the Embraer jets or are they going to recruit crew to operate only that jet?

RaverFlaver :O

Raver I seem to recall an email that said we would be crosstrained on the EMB's

That said though, who knows what will happen now with the No vote on the pilots EBA?

Embraer
 

Is anyone aware if and when Virgin Blue will operate the Embraers to Emerald in Queensland?

Will Virgin Blue base check in staff at the airport in Emerald as well?

Virgin Blue Employed Ground Staff are only in the 4 major Ports of BNE, SYD, MEL and ADL.

All other Ports are staffed by contract staff - such as Aerocare and Oceanic Aviation.

There is also a limited number of Casual staff in the major ports that are employed through Westaff.

If Virgin Blue were to fly to Emerald - the Ground Staff would be employed by a Ground Handling Company.

do you know if they hire for ground crew very often? and what bases?

Check Virgin Blue website for when they are hiring

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thanks guys,

lets hope VB will fly to regional places in Embraers, and does anyone know if the height requirements will change for the Embraer aircraft?