take it you havent seen the new AZ uniform:yuk: :yuk: :yuk: :yuk:

i must say i\'m getting truely fed up with all this uniform ****. Does a not so niceuniform stop you being professional at your job????? why should a nice uniform make you do it any better?? The airline indusrty is so stuck up and snotty about little things like this - GET OVER IT after all - we still serve tea coffee and food. and if we were to have an emergency, your uniform would look like **** anyway so who cares??????


So doctors have to wear paper overalls - does that make them unprofessional or bad at their job? or make them not want to go into work????? such a stupid thread this

CC look professional in any uniform,its just that some uniforms look better than others but all CC are professional and do a great Job.Dont know any passengers that would be eyeing you up in an Emergency and would be more bothered about staying alive.

Nobody is going to be thinking "She looks like **** after all that"The safety aspects of trousers mentioned earlier in this thread should the emergency be a fire" I thought were valid and not stupid.

At the end of the day Men like looking at a good looking woman in uniform but that all goes out of the window in an emergency(or decompression) as you want someone that knows what they are doing no matter whether they are good looking or not.

Well said Rescue 137, couldn't agree more.

On a more superficial level, I spend so much time in my uniform - 22 days out of 30 - that I am glad it is very smart and looks good on me and on my colleagues. If you know what I mean!! :)

FBW

Flybywire-I for one am glad most women look good in Uniform as what else is there to do on a long flight than to decide who looks best on a flight when you have seen all the films.:D Still amazes me how CC still look amazing after a 10 hour flight or day putting up with all the horrible pax.

A well presented cabin crew is the image of how the airline is like. We could debate for ours whether this is fair or not, but we all know it is true.

An elegant, smart, professional, beautiful uniform gives the idea of a well structured - and safe - organization. Whether in reality that's actually true is irrelevant, but that's what most passengers perceive and what most airlines try to achieve.

When I fly on EZY planes I know that I am amongst friendly cabin crews who have a relaxed approach to their work. When I was with FCA (the pink lot) pax expected us to be flirtatious. Pax who fly VS expect to be served on board by Miss Universe. My passengers these days ask me to solve various problems they have. Maybe the idea they get is that I have the knowledge of a turist info centre and that I have the ability to solve all their organizational problems.

Every uniform tells something different, the tricky thing is to make it match with the image you want to create.

:)

Well said as always, FBW :)

Jettesen, we are not trying to say one airline's staff is 'better' than another, it's just a bit of fun to discuss why we like or dislike a particular carrier's uniform. In the same way that girls talk about shoes and guys about cars, it's just something a bit fun and less serious than a lot of things happening in the industry right now. No one's making you read this, by the way :p

And of course we all know that crew try to be as professional and as safe as possible at all times, regardless of their uniform!! :D

IMHO it's a question of respect for your flying customers vs comfort and convenience for the staff. I'd much rather fly with an airline that has only skirts for its female crew because I think it's indicative of the corporate culture. When I've flown with companies that give a choice, the women in the skirts have generally been more polite, efficient and attentive than the trouser-wearers.

I just can't believe the amount of dialogue that''s been entered into on this subject.

And furthermore..... I just can't believe, that I just can't believe the amount of dialogue that's been enetered into on this subject!
:ugh:

:hmm:

It is axiomatic that some women look more delicious in skirts and others do in trousers.
That point aside, surely trousers are infinitely more sensible than skirts?
I know that not everyone flies the 747 but just try coming down the upper deck escape chute in a skirt and see how your nylon undies burn themselves on to your nether regions. Were I a girl, there's no way I would want to jeopardise my enjoyment of life by wearing a skirt as flight crew.:eek:

I never wear skirts in my own free time. I hate wearing skirts as I feel a little too exposed 4 my liking in them. However, my airline doesn't offer the option of trousers and I must admit I'm glad of this. I feel much more professional when working wearing a skirt, and I havent found it a problem as yet. Saying that though, I have never had to do an evacuation or deal with a medical emergency so time may tell! Trousers are more practical i agree, but skirts are much more glamorous!

I think you've hit the nail on the head. Thank heavens for airlines that don't give female cc the choice of wearing trousers!

At the the risk of being...
 

Well, I'm gonna make a really risky, but obvious statement....
Trousers or Skirt or Dress...

The truth is the really glamourous Stewardess will carry any of them of well...because she's graceful, confident, enjoys her job, and is an absolute pleasure to be served by or work with...

Back to the 21st century...the plain truth is there are too many girls (and boys) employed as cabin crew/flight attendants who won't look good in any uniform, as they try to squeeze into a uniform 2 sizes too small :=... With political correctness gone mad airlines can no longer be sizest and most North American/UK airlines make female uniforms upto size 26...and male size upto a waist of 42-44...When I first started flying in 1991 uniform checks/weigh-ins were the norm---Again, as in so many things were have gone from one extreme to the other...

As for all you straight guys out there who like girls in skirts; let us bent blokes have some fun too...Any chance of seeing one of those Hunky 6' 2" bronzed Qantas blokes from Balmoral going commando???;)

EmmaB,
honey, even if you attempt to disguise by putting trousers on and choosing a new PPRuNe ID with "man" on it, we still spot your inimitable style.

Nice try :hmm:

Now give us a break with your anti-trousers campaign, ok?

Flyblue,

Are you trying to say Emmab and I are the same person...don't think so...I am not anti-female uniform trousers...My gripe is more with the fact that Airline uniforms are now allowed to be produced in twice and three times the size they were 15 years ago...

No Muizenberg, I was not

Mods aren't supposed to get too involved in opinions on threads, but I'm exhausted after a long block of flights, and a gin & tonic the worse for wear, so please excuse my breaking the rules and making a personal contribution.

There's something infinitely depressing about this thread - made worse by the fact that it seems to have been resurrected when I thought it had finally sunk beneath the surface of our collective consciousness some time ago.

I don't know what to be more irritated by - the fact that some people seem to have strongly felt opinions on this subject, or the fact that opinions exist at all. How can it be that in the modern world, in the industry that we all (more or less) love, the subject of whether female crew should wear trousers or not can generate more than a millisecond of thought?

There are many things that we, as crew, could talk about on PPRuNe - FTL's, customers, safety, service - the list is endless. Instead, a totally subjective argument about the aesthetic value of trousers versus skirts is proposed. Here are (in my view) some facts,

• A pretty girl will remain a pretty girl, regardless of whether she wears trousers or a skirt
• A good flight attendant will remain a good flight attendant, regardless of her dress choice
• A good flight attendant will perform a successful evacuation of an aircraft or assist with in-flight medical care, regardless of clothing

Is there actually anything else to be said? How can any other opinion possibly be held? It clearly is, so I must be wrong in my assessment, but I just don't see it.

PPRuNe is a fabulous resource that enables us to discuss subject of weight from around the world, but within our industry. It depresses me to see that we should choose to discuss something as trite, pointless, puerile and trivial as whether or not women should be issued with trousers. If we wish to be taken seriously as a profession, then shouldn't we lead by example?

Rant over, I'm going to bed now, and probably should have before i typed all this. In 6 hours I shall wake up and do the school run, and then flyblue will tell me off for posting when emotional.

I just feel strongly that we need to raise our game a little beyond this kind of trivia.

Goodnight

Discuss...

Love your work TightSlot!! Don't agree with you , but love it just the same!

SKIRTS or TROUSERS
 

You could always go to south India where the MEN and WOMEN all dress in BOTH????????????..... bit confused about their sexuality me thinks.

:hmm:

Perhaps I can kick this little lot into the fifth page which might occasion TightSlot even more fury and gnashing upon awakening - which I hope she does and without a trace of an errant g & t or two, too!:cool:
Quite agree with everything she said actually. I rather thought that this was just a bit of an idle fun bash around.

So, in that same vein.

1. Pretty girls. Quite agree. But by no means all air hostesses are pretty. Lots of the less gorgeous ones look better in trousers - or in skirts. It depends on the rump factor to a large degree.
2. Good flight attendant. Quite agree. But, as with an interview, some cut more mustard and authority in trousers while others do whilst wearing skirts.
3. Evacuees. Quite agree. But what about that fatal hesitation on the jolly old Jumbo as the fate of the fizzled fundament dawns bleakly under the eye shadow, or do they don trousers under their life jackets?

It'll never all come right for everyone all of the time but it is really interesting to note that Virgin hosties shag pilots, even if they're only Virgin pilots. So you see, some good at least came from this thread!:E

In reality, I think that all cabin crew should wear dark blue dungarees and matching blue leather boots trimmed with platignum. But, frankly my dear, I don't give a damn!;)

Paracetamol!!! - Where did I put the Paracetamol?

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