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Old 13th Dec 2005, 13:53
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How is that possible anyone at all can like ryanairs uniform..?
I hope no-one does. I don't think it's been changed in a long, long time. It really needs a bit of an update, even for a LCC. However getting MOL to invest in it might be a challenge in it's own right!
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I like a uniform to be a uniform. ALL wearing the same outfit with your make up and hair the same way. That's what working for an airline is all about!
THAT is what working for an airline is all about?????

I understand that ppl choose to work as CC for different reasons, but would they choose it only for the uniform itself???


I have both trousers and skirts and I decide what to wear depending on length of duty/weather at home/destination.
It has saved me so many colds compared to my years in PE and FCA, where trousers were not an option.
They can look smart, professional (and sexy too). In fact today both my colleague in trousers and I received some nice compliments from a few business passengers.
It's not just what you wear, but how you wear it.

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PS:Sky...u always express my thoughts maybe I have a twin in OZ. Now tell me you do wear trousers at work!!!
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It's not just what you wear, but how you wear it.
Exactly what I was trying to say - just a lot less articulately than you did!
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Hi Flybywire,

I agree with you that the choice of uniform isn't the *only* reason to work for one airline rather than another, though I think it's a factor.

Personally I could never work for an airline where trousers were mandatory and I would prefer not to work for one where they're optional because a) it's not really a uniform, if people are dressed differently and b) even though I wouldn't be wearing them, some of my colleagues probably would, and IMHO that would lower the prestige of the job and the respect shown by pax.

I don't agree with you that trousers prevent colds. For years I used to fly in to JFK, where it can easily be -10 in the winter and with an icy wind coming in off the Atlantic. Working for VS at the time I was in a skirt, shorter I believe than today's style, with 10 denier (or was it 15? I can't remember...) barely black hosiery (normally stockings, not tights).

OK, sometimes my legs were a bit chilly, but I can't say I got a cold once from it, because I was always careful to wear my hat and coat outside of the aircraft.
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Old 13th Dec 2005, 17:20
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Hi Emma.

I see your point of view. I cannot share it though, as I do feel that trousers give us a bit more authority. Just my personal feeling. This is airline #3 and uniform #6 for me!!

Authority does not only depend on what you wear, it depends on the kind of passengers you carry. In FCA, the pink skirt was not helpful in dealing with agressive/potentially disruptive passengers. I wished many times I had had trousers then.

It might sound stupid to many of you but it really makes a difference. I alternate skirts/trousers and I can feel a difference in people's reactions (only a minority. The majority doesn't care about what you wear, they only care about spending as little as possible, getting from A to C via B without losing any bags, making the connections and possibly getting there in one piece!).

I do not believe that women who wear a skirt uniform are more glamorous than women who wear trousers. I am sure I look better when I wear the trousers as I can move better, more freely, and look more spontaneous.
I can also "play" those games that I am sure Rescue 137 loves much better!! (dear when r u flying with us!)

I wouldn't choose an airline for their uniform. I wouldn't choose a job for the uniform. I choose the airline for its professionalism, safety record and quality of life. If I had had to choose an airline for the uniform they "offer" I wouldn't be here now, as when I joined BA we were all still dressed like clowns (or like Queen Elizabeth II, like my granny says......no offence intended!! )

As for colds.....when you stand at the back of a 737 with both doors open, and it's -3 degrees and windy.....and you do it 3-4 times everyday.....I promise you, trousers make a huge difference to the number of colds you get (caused by cold weather, not by viruses). Also I can wear thick stockings, instead of the usual 20 den.

With this I don't want to say that you are wrong, at all. Everybody has different opinions, and that's why the world is such an interesting place, and also why we work for different airlines!

Safe flying....whatever you choose to wear

FBW
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Old 13th Dec 2005, 17:51
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I love the new BA i, getting mine next week i cant wait!!
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Old 13th Dec 2005, 22:09
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Hi Flybywire,

I respect your right to work for an airline (BA) that allows women to wear trousers, though I still don't understand your reasoning.

I quite like the FCA uniform. I can't see how the pink skirt was unhelpful in dealing with troublesome/disruptive pax, or how trousers would have helped matters. Personally I think the only thing that *would* help in this situation is an electric cattle prod!

And as for skirts contributing to colds... I just don't get it. Aren't colds some kind of virus that breeds in the mucus in your nose and throat, isn't that where they come from? Maybe we're more prone to them if our overall body temperature drops, for instance if we stood outside wearing very little for ages.

I went to a school where we wore a uniform of a wraparound kilt and ankle socks and I had a long walk to the bus stop followed by a wait for the bus, so my feet and legs used to be bl**dy freezing pretty much all winter long. My Mum used to tell me that we lose only 5% of our body heat through our legs and as long as I wore a nice warm coat, a hat and some gloves, I'd be fine.

I hardly ever got colds back then, nor do I now, in fact the only time I had them a lot was a year at college when I was wearing jeans pretty much every day. I'm not saying they caused it, it was probably more to do with eating crap food prepared in a student hovel kitchen, but nevertheless I don't see how a few minutes' exposure of your legs to chilly air could do any harm.
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because a) it's not really a uniform, if people are dressed differently and b) even though I wouldn't be wearing them, some of my colleagues probably would, and IMHO that would lower the prestige of the job and the respect shown by pax.
I have to disagree. A uniform is more about consistency of cut, fabric and colour rather than the actual clothing items.

(FBW, yes, I do wear trousers at work, as a) it can get freezing out on the ramp, and b) have once or twice nearly caused an accident when having to climb stairs unexpectedly in a short dress! )

My company has lots of different pieces, blouses, vests, jacket, skirt, dress, trousers for ladies. No-one has ever commented on anything looking out of place as all but the blouse are same fabric and colours, blouse a complementary colour and our scarf ties it all together with the company accent colours.

I don't think a policewoman in a skirt any less authoritative than one in trousers, and not many would say she wasn't wearing a 'proper' uniform...

Is it correct that until recently, female police in the UK weren't allowed to wear trousers?? If so, there must be a reason they changed this...

Another case, one airline I see pilots from quite a bit had a few lady pilots. They always had to wear trousers (waaaaaaay more practical!! ) anyway a skirt option was introduced; one or two took it up but many people commented on it, eventually only one or two ended up wearing the skirt at all - the others went back to trrousers!! So you see it does work both ways...

FBW, don't tease poor Rescue so!!! Much more I don't think he can handle it!!!
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Old 14th Dec 2005, 10:08
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Ok I am not an expert in any medical field, but I know for sure that when your body temperature goes way below the norm because you're exposed to cold weather, you "catch" anything, whether that means viruses or just symptoms of your body cooling up.

The other night I was in NCL and the hotel had a major problem in the heating system. We were all sick the following morning!!! I had a sore throat and am now fighting with a runny nose as a consequence of that night.

I was born in a hot country where in the winter I NEVER had to de-ice the car. Never saw my parents do that. I saw the snow in my city about 6 times in 26 years. We didn't use school uniforms and I always wore warm clothes in the winter. My immune system isn't used to being exposed to such cold weather!!
Wearing trousers (and thick warm stockings underneath if necessary) has helped me in adverse weather conditions (including when we got stuck on the tarmac in EDI last year and it was snowing like hell while trying to find an engineer to pull out the stairs of the aircraft at 5am!!).

I am still of the idea that it's not what you wear but how you wear it. And it's 99% up to you to show the right authority to your passengers. I was very uncomfortable in the pink skirt, I feel safer and more confident when I wear my trousers. I can also work in the cabin without worrying about showing my underwear and that makes me more spontaneous! They are very practical, and I truly think they look pretty good anyway!

Ciao

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Old 15th Dec 2005, 20:45
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VS groud staff wear skirts. There is a pair of trousers but by no means is it an option. It's not in the uniform book nor is it actively encouraged.

A an example of when ground crew have been allowed to wear trousers have been for medical reasons eg someone has a leg/foot problem and just for comfort and manoueverability trousers are the better option.

Some care agents also wear trousers again for comfort and manoueverability - they have to push wheel chairs and bag trolleys for miles day in day out.

But like i say it's not activily encouraged and most ground staff don't even think about the trousers as an option. Especially as it makes the uniform all a bit red.
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Old 17th Dec 2005, 09:46
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"I do not believe that women who wear a skirt uniform are more glamorous than women who wear trousers. I am sure I look better when I wear the trousers as I can move better, more freely, and look more spontaneous.
I can also "play" those games that I am sure Rescue 137 loves much better!! (dear when r u flying with us!)

I wouldn't choose an airline for their uniform. I wouldn't choose a job for the uniform. I choose the airline for its professionalism, safety record and quality of life. If I had had to choose an airline for the uniform they "offer" I wouldn't be here now, as when I joined BA we were all still dressed like clowns (or like Queen Elizabeth II, like my granny says......no offence intended!! )"

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So FBW-What are those games I love so much?Please remind me as I seem to have forgotten for the time being and I need reminding As for when am I flying with you-I'll surprise you on that one Although I will def make the effort if you are on the flight

As for Skirts/Trousers then I think BA uniform looks good with either.To be able to compare then you would have to see the same person in both trousers and Skirt and then make a decision as to which looks the best.Ive seen BA staff that look great in Trousers and BA staff that look great in Skirt and stockings.As FBW has already said its not what you wear but how you wear it.Trousers can be sexy if they are fitted correctly.

Certain uniforms I think would look strange with trousers-Virgin would be one as I just cant see Trousers fitting in to that Uniform unless they changed the colour and i cant see them loosing the red.BMI-Bmi dispatchers lready wear trousers as part of there uniform.Alright they arent CC but they do wear excatly the same uniform other than the trousers and hat.Around 2000 BM as it was then changed there female dispatchers from wearing the same uniform as GS/CC to introduce a compulsary trouser option for dispatchers as it was so much easier to move around the stands,climb into the aircraft if needed and generally step over things.Up until this then the dispatchers were wearing the GS/CC blue skirt and making it difficult to say the least to climb over stuff.The trousers give them more flexibility and makes them stand out as when you see a Female in BMI uniform & trousers then you know they are a dispatcher straight away.

Cant see GS/CC wearing the trousers option as the BMI uniform just wouldnt be the same for these grades but on Dispatchers it looks good.Maybe the hat just doesnt go too well with Trousers.I

I think for the trousers to look good then they have to be a dark colour Navy Blue,Black colour and that is why BMI/BA trousers work.An example of how trousers dont work is Aviance-those light blue trousers God I feel sorry for anyone who has to wear those,The skirt is the better option but the otherall colour is horrible.
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i agree with tightslot.......the best uniform is the one where the buttons stay on AND as i'm walking across the airbridge my stockings dont get ladders ( which they do every time )
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Old 17th Dec 2005, 10:19
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Apologies if already linked/shown, but I couldnt troll through all 7 pages......



So I think it is time to end this discussion (for the girls at least). There is only 1 uniform you should be wearing and this is it




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Old 17th Dec 2005, 22:12
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OK, just my $0.02 worth, as our American cousins would say. Sorry to some of the ladies here but as a frequent flyer on both long and short-haul flights out of the UK, mostly business class on exes, I much prefer stewardesses in skirts.

It's not just a sex appeal thing, I find them smarter and more flattering to the typical female figure.

One lady said she felt passengers respect her more in trousers than skirts. Is it just that you imagine this, if you feel more comfortable or confident dressed that way? I ask because, if anything, I'm more courteous and formal towards stewardesses in smart skirts because they're more formally dressed.

A couple of times I've been on easyJet, either because I was picking up the tab myself or they just happened to have the best flight times, and these days they seem to be wearing fleeces and cargo pants. Sorry but I can't take them at all seriously .
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blueloo, for hootersair pilots, those guys don't look too happy.....! (They must be gay....! )
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LOL true, but I think they are really just in shock, the girls have obvioulsy just flashed their gianormous breasts at them!
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Talking Re: Favourite Cabin Crew Uniform

Hi

I think Singapore Airline has the best uniform for women & the 2nd Airline has to be British Airways & Britania!!
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Wink Re: Favourite Cabin Crew Uniform

Hi

Any1 got the pic of the latest Gulf or Singapore Airline uniform???
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Old 5th Jan 2006, 13:56
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Re: Favourite Cabin Crew Uniform

Remember the old "I wish they all could be Caledonian Girls" advert? Happy memories of the lovely tartan-uniformed ladies of BCal looking after us on holiday flights back in the 70s!

But my favorite of all time was the utterly adorable Roz Hanby wearing that 'Fly the Flag'-era ba uniform of many years ago!
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Re: Favourite Cabin Crew Uniform

My first post... (Wish me luck)...

When travelling as a pax in Corporate Jets or business and/or economy with the airlines I don't care what you Ladies (and gents) wear so long as you are comfortable. If you are happy then it does show. That's 95% of the way to ensuring we are happy and have a great flight.
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