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British Airways - CC Industrial Relations Mk V

Old 22nd Jan 2010, 14:11
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After Lala's comments I am reminded of the useful phrase "Your presence on this aircraft is not conducive to a safe and efficient operation" - the door is there!

Could be applicable to both an operating or passengering situation.
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Old 22nd Jan 2010, 14:12
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Unite cabin crew ballot: BA statement

BA said today that it remains absolutely determined to protect its customers’ travel plans as much as it possibly can should Unite’s threatened strike go ahead.

As a responsible employer and in view of Unite’s apparent wish for a lengthy strike, BA has written to cabin crew individually to set out the consequences of different ballot outcomes.

The letter says that if there is a vote to reject strike action, the company will continue to offer assurances that would allow cabin crew to keep:
their current individual terms and conditions
their current pay, with increment rises for most crew of between two per cent and seven per cent this financial year and next
their average variable pay (allowances) through the offer of a monthly standard payment
their options for voluntary lifestyle changes, either through changing fleets at Heathrow or transferring to part time
a commitment from the company to keep talking with Unite about how it recruits new crew .
full union representation with an offer from the company for Unite to represent future crew.

The letter adds that if a strike occurs, crew taking part would lose:
pay and associated days off for duties missed because of strike action
entitlement to staff travel benefits.

In the event of a strike and the financial loss it would cause, the airline would also have to conduct a further review of cabin crew costs and would not be able to maintain assurances over current cabin crew terms and conditions.

Bill Francis, head of cabin crew, said: “We know how much our customers do not want to see a strike at British Airways. Their patience is running out.

“I am proud of the professionalism and skills of British Airways cabin crew. But Unite is seeking to inflict huge damage on our business once again, so it is time to be absolutely clear with crew about what will happen if a strike takes place. Going on strike is a very serious matter, and I hope all Unite members will think very carefully before casting their vote.

“We owe it to our customers and all our colleagues to do everything we can to reduce the impact of any disruption that might occur.”

Unite’s ballot starts on Monday, January 25.

There will be a full version of the letter to crew available on the IFCE intranet site from Monday.

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Old 22nd Jan 2010, 14:13
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A quick question please.

When these sort of official messages are placed by BASSA Leaders on the BASSA website do any of the members ever state.."Stop this please, it is not helping, its hurting us."?

Perhaps if BASSA members started demanding more professionalism and a little less thug-like behavior from their leadership unfortunate events such as the notice this morning would occur less often.
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Old 22nd Jan 2010, 14:15
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If you saw the abuse people get on that forum for even suggesting BASSA isn't handling something in the best possible way, you would understand..
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Old 22nd Jan 2010, 14:22
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ESS from BA! Permanent loss of staff travel to those going on a strike.
Plus the rest though we're not allowed to copy it here without Bill F's permission.
Incidentally most of the crew who I flew with this week are going to Vote NO and resign from BASSA. Four CSDS who I met whilst in CRC who previously were prepared to strike were also resigning, said they'd had enough and were coming to work.

I'm BA Cabin Crew and the above represent my personal views and not those of BA.
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Old 22nd Jan 2010, 14:24
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Tiramisu

Very interesting to hear, seems like things are changing in the higher ranks as well then..

Who knows, maybe I won't even have to get my skirt size meisured after all
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Old 22nd Jan 2010, 14:36
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Hello Tiramisu

It's good to know people are starting to wake up and smell the coffee!!
It's also good to know that there are serious consequences for continuing to damage our business, reputation and community.
I started to draft a post and then read your caution re. posting any details. The people that need to know will have read it, the ball is firmly in their court.
Lets hope sense prevails and we can get on with being an airline instead of the main attraction in a media circus.

My own thoughts as usual, not my employers or any one elses.
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Old 22nd Jan 2010, 14:38
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Clarified, does the e-mail use the word 'permanent' regarding loss of staff travel? The ESS home-page synopsis doesn't.

Thanks.
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Old 22nd Jan 2010, 14:40
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Absolutely no comment.
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Old 22nd Jan 2010, 14:59
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And all you folks had to do is work one down.Its now in `black and white` on ESS.You go on strike and New Fleet will evolve.The thing you are striking about is what you are going to cause to happen because you go on strike!
And you are going to lose your staff travel for good!
Bassa has led you to the edge of the cliff and I think it is going to be almost impossible to step back from there.We shall have to wait and see.
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Old 22nd Jan 2010, 15:03
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The gloves have come off!!! This is starting to get interesting.

Well interesting for an outsider.. If I was a Crew member I'd be starting to worry, big style. Even if you are against a strike and Vote NO, your colleagues could still totally screw-up your livelihood. Very Scary!

The frenzy on CF must be reaching fever point.. Kind of like throwing raw meat to the lions, I imagine, or a red rag to a bull.(a particularly stupid bull in this case)

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Old 22nd Jan 2010, 15:04
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every post is viewable by all and has often been reported back to Cabin Crew forums
Including the ones where we've pointed out BASSA's lies?

Forgive me if I don't believe you.
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Old 22nd Jan 2010, 15:07
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Unite Call In A Favour??

One of our more left leaning newspapers may be doing an "anti pilot" expose tomorrow.

Lets hope they can get the spelling right
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Old 22nd Jan 2010, 15:07
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You better believe it! The witchfinder general is whizzing around every thread on Crew Forum telling people to stop worryig about people volunteering to work as crew because it isn't happening. No evidence to support the claim, just her fervent desire for it not to be true. I guess if she says it enough maybe it will become true.
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Old 22nd Jan 2010, 15:08
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At CF they are saying that Bill is getting desperate and that staff travel will always come back because commuters won't get to work. One even said unions will insist on it as one of the conditions for their members to return to work.
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Old 22nd Jan 2010, 15:09
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It doesn't say lose staff travel for good. As in the past you can;t use staff travel while you are on strike. Don't mislead.
There is enough of that already !!
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Old 22nd Jan 2010, 15:11
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Carnage, I believe that is called the "head in the sand" manoeuvre. A BASSA speciality.

Why let the truth spoil a good lie?


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No. It says lose staff travel permanently. But thats the same as for good.
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Old 22nd Jan 2010, 15:13
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The scary fact is that it would be irresponsible to threaten the closure of BA as we know it as a consequence of a strike or even a prolonged threat of one on an official company message but sadly the prospect of such an eventuality remains very possible.
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Old 22nd Jan 2010, 15:14
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77,

I read the point about staff travel in the same way as Carnage. It doesn't say "during strike/industrial action". It uses that "P" word.

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I am BA cabin crew and this is my own viewpoint and not that of BA.
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