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Old 17th May 2008, 07:56
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Does anyone know anything about the Qantas Cabin Crew Team Manager position(s) recently advertised for SYD.

Pay rate and a rough job description would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance
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Old 17th May 2008, 08:30
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Whilst not compulsory, history shows that a pathological hatred of cabin crew is seen as an advantage.

Good luck.
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Unhappy Sad but true

1: You MUST have no practical knowledge of Cabin Crew responsibilities,working environment & culture

2; It is desirable to have been attending a university at some time.If so, the softer the degree the better.

3; Said degree to have no relevance to managing anything,exept your own perception of your own importance.!

4;You must become, if not already, a total sycophant.

5;see previous post.

6;Have the unique ability to lay blame on anybody else but yourself.


7; You will probably earn less than most of the people you think you are managing!!!

8; The people you are allegedly managing WILL know this.

9; You will last less than 2 years in the job.

10; Buy some good body armour,your fellow "managers"! will not hesitate to stab you in the back.


Welcome to the dysfunctional FAMILY

If you are still interested in the job,you will probably get it.

Good luck.

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Yep - they are Cabin Crew Team Manager position(s) based in SYD.

Even just a rough pay rate would be a big help.

Cheers.
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The Qantas Careers website doesn't mention specific salary figures, just says 'competitive'.
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Old 23rd May 2008, 07:35
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I thnk the salary range is around $70-$80K per annum plus super and other benefits eg staff travel.
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There is space for another one in BNE as BK resigned today...effective immediatly!!!
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Probably decided to pre-empt the upcoming "cull".

The one thats sure to occur when dickson finally leaves.

Oil prices must be putting enormous pressure on profits.

I wouldn't be leaving a full time job to join Qantas unless the job was operational.....

Middle "management" has bloated to the point of super morbid obesity under dickson with new broom sure to cut a swath through the ranks of the useless.
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I'd be interested in the job if it meant I could make a positive difference to CC working life but I don't think that would be the case, would it? The job spec only mentions having crew experience as desirable. I've always felt it should be mandatory for a position like this but I guess they want people in that position who can be impartial. A lot of airlines seem to be going this way.
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Cheers folks - thanks for your thoughts
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Applied and rejected. I guess my experience wasn't desirable enough, oh well. Good luck to those who have applied, if any.
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Future of QF CNS SH base?

Ive heard a lot of rumour lately about the viability of the Qf CNS sh base... some positive ... some negative.... Other than the two daily NRT flights there is not a lot of work originating out of the base , therefore many of the domestic trips are 4 , 5, and 6 day trips ... doesnt seem cost effective to me especially when there is also a base manager, and several other admin staff to be added to the bottom line... what do you think about CNS future?.... What do you know about CNS future?..... What do you think you know about CNS future.... informed opinion please.

TW
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Old 30th May 2008, 10:08
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Much will depend on what qf announce next week as it's reaction to the spike in oil prices.

Rumours suggest that destinations in Japan may be pulled.

Watch the following interview.........

http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/conte...7/s2259834.htm
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Well I speak with no authority whatsoever and this is completely my own conjecture. But I would agree that CNS may be a base QF would not want to hang onto. Jetstar have a base there and fly to two JPN destinations. Why bother running a QF plane to Narita for a leisure market that's seen better days? Japanese tourists are falling off like flies to CNS preferring instead SE Asia because of the favourable exchange rate. Not a lot of business flying done in and out of CNS.
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Old 30th May 2008, 11:25
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I was under the impression that the NRT services were operated by BNE and SYD based crews as four sector duties.

I recently paxed NRT-CNS. The flight was continuing to SYD with the same crew and about two thirds of the passengers.
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CNS to NRT is being operated by cns crew at this stage.. the hotel requirements for crew as per the June 2008 bid package are

ADL 61 AKL 4 BNE 32 CBR 15 DRW 4 HBA 5 MEL 210 NRT 762 OOL 4 PER 22 SYD 40


After NRT the most overnighting port is MEL with 210 with 5 and 6 day trips all Mel flying ... are they short of crew in Mel????

TW
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Everytime I get on a flight other crew are saying that cns base is supposed to be closing down. I know the pilots will be going, but every time management reply to the cabin crew base closing they get very defensive. It doesn't make sense to have a base here in my opinion and many crew want to go south, yes some are very happy to stay but just as many want to go. Will be interesting to see if anything happens to the base with all these recent annoucements.
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If any of you were at the CNS base when the GM visited the base back in mid-April, you would have known that she has strongly committed to the future of the CNS SH base and any rumor which suggests the closure of the base are purely rumor with no substance behind it.
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Old 31st May 2008, 07:14
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I can tell you first hand that MEL is not short of crew. Maybe you are already aware that Melbourne crew with seniority of 7 years down are all getting 2 leg SYD returns of 4.30hrs!! Some crew are blocked at less than 100hrs and these are full time not casual. MEL crew are screaming for work and arent getting any.
Going from 10-12 overnights a month to 21 SYD returns is not pretty.
Going from your post showing 200 plus nights in MEL, its obvious where MEL flying has gone.

Safe flying!
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The same guarantees were given to employees of Australian Airlines.
Now...what happened to them?
They were shut down
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