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Old 9th Nov 2007, 01:42
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The wait goes on..

Lets hope its our turn soon for the external candidates in the EF pool. Last 2 weeks have been for internal and reployed staff. May be next week for us??
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Old 9th Nov 2007, 12:21
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Hi Londonphilou!!

I was wondering what happened to you, you were quiet for a while, now I know you've been away. Your post made me feel optimistic again!!! The fact they said to make sure to have phones on and check emails surely has to be a possitive sign!!! Then again, maybe Im reading too much into this... Oh well, we'll just have to wait and see!!!!!
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Old 9th Nov 2007, 14:27
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Hangar 6 (Training Centre)

Hi Guys ,

looking for the address for Hangar 6 ?
As I have booked into the ibis Hotel for two weeks and need to know
how long is the bus ride / walk ?

Kind Regards and thank you
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Old 9th Nov 2007, 14:52
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BA recruitment

Hi Everyone

Just a simple question I noticed that BA are recruiting for Cabin Crew for Gatwick.

The requirements are that you have to hold GCSE Maths. I thought this requirement had been dropped as it wasn't listed on the previous recruitment.

I have a degree and language skills just never passed the old O Level in Maths as they were.

Would really appreciate any information from someone who's in the company, as i would really like a career in the company and would ilke to do the job.

Thanks
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Old 9th Nov 2007, 15:16
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Put your education details in the application as honestly as you can. If you are invited to an interview, just bring your degree with you. You have been upfront with them, so if they've invited you to an interview then they can make the judgement on the day.
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Old 9th Nov 2007, 15:25
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Missdoo

Hi Missdoo.
Yes I was on holidays for a month on a tropical island..until yesterday.
I rang BA on Tuesday pm and told them I am an external candidate waiting for an EF course and that I have heard that some people have been offered dates already and whether they have been trying to get hold of me. I did not have much access to the internet there plus sometimes not good mobile phone reception. The lady asked for my name etc and did some checks on the computer and then she told me that no one has got in touch with me and thats when she told me to leave my phone on all the time and also check my emails regularly...She did not emphasized that only internal and redeployed staff were being contacted. So in a way that was a bit of reassurance that we might be called soon. But then again we wont know until we really get THAT call. Lets hope we do very soon.
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Old 9th Nov 2007, 22:37
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SuperBoy,

as i have stated before, you are incorrect about LHR EF trip bidding 'rotating success' - this applies only to annual leave, i do not need to phone any scheduling managers to clarify this.
anyway, BASSA would have never accepted the system in that guise in anycase.
that's simply all there is to it i'm afraid.

and with regards the WW LHR groundstaff temps, as you correctly say that it is my oppinion (which i have reiterated on several occassions), however i think that i shall be proven correct come the spring of 2008.

i now graciously bow out of this topic.

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Old 10th Nov 2007, 12:39
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BA - where do you fly?

I notice BA are recruiting for LGW. Where will the crew be flying? Will it be short haul or a mixture of short and long haul?
I head that if you get in with BA you have to fly short haul for 2 years and then you can apply to be transferred to long haul? Is this true? If you fly long haul for another airline can you go straight to long haul with BA?
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Old 10th Nov 2007, 13:06
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This has been covered many, many times over but for what it's worth:

The flying you do depends on the fleet you are recruited for. At the moment, the company is recruiting for LGW which is a mixture of short haul and long routes on the 737 and 777.

Long haul routes are:

Tampa, Orlando, Altanta, Kingston, Bermuda (shuttle to Port of Spain), Barbados and Antigua (shuttle to St.Lucia, Grenada and Tobago). Houston and Dallas will have moved up to LHR before the next batch of new entrants are trained.

Short haul trips will vary from day trips of 2-4 sectors to 3 day multi sector trips. Please correct me if I have this wrong.

You have to wait for two years before putting your name on a transfer list. After that, it could be a 3-5 year wait (5-7 years in total) before actually achieving the transfer, depending on your seniority.

With hundreds of people on transfer lists waiting to get to long haul at LHR, it is unlikely that they will recruit directly from outside, at least on a permanent basis. In the last two years, they have recruited temporary crew for long haul in 3 different campaigns. Most of these crew ended up at LGW. None of them remained at LHR on long haul.

It's important to note that BA will not recruit anyone directly into a particular fleet or rank just because a candidate has prior experience. There are very strict transfer and promotions protocols that are part of the terms and conditions agreed with the relevant unions.
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Old 10th Nov 2007, 14:58
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But they could recruit for permanent basis to LHR EF again, couldn't they?
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Old 10th Nov 2007, 15:30
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In principle, yes. Different parties would like to see a process of ensuring that all new entrants start at LGW only but until an agreement is formalised (as far as I know this hasn't happened but I am happy to be corrected) then the company can recruit for EF if it needs to.

Once the transfer agreements for LGW-LHR are in place then the company would have a hard time being able to recruit directly into EF. I wouldn't be surprised if they resorted to using EF temps again - in a similar way to how the WW temps have been utilised.
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Old 10th Nov 2007, 16:18
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Ba Boi,

No matter how many times you say it, it will not make it true. Your counter argument has nothing to do with the bidding system but merely "BASSA wouldn't allow it" That unfortunately does not suffice. I am sure I don't have to tell you to back your statements up with facts not emotional convictions. Also If you think AB is a scheduling manager then this discussion is rather pointless. We will have to agree to disagree.

As for the WW Temps. You are right we will have to see but as you have mentioned BASSA. Do you really think BASSA will allow temps to be kept on on WW permanently??? Yes they might be offered a position else where in the company. Although that would contradict what every manager has said at all the various forums. As always BA will do what it can within the restrictions placed on it and yes they will try to get away with alot more.

I have had various discussion with STS, SS and MG wrt recruitment, future plans etc. etc. I know what I know because it came straight from the horses mouth.

If you can invalidate any of my arguments, please do try.

Ps. Please do not bow out on my behalf. Believe me Fiction proclaimed as fact always makes for interesting reading but as you correctly stated we will have to wait and see.
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Old 11th Nov 2007, 11:59
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How long will it take / Colchester to LGW

I was thinking of aplying for CC at LGW, I live in Colchester Essex,
how long would it take to get to LGW ? it says you have to be able to
get to LGW in 90mins.
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Old 11th Nov 2007, 12:14
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That length of journey would be fine, anyway most of the interviewers have never heard of Essex. Get your application off today.
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Old 11th Nov 2007, 17:01
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I'm appling... or have applied rather and I live in NCL, crew commute from all over the country and a few places in Europe, im sure Essex wont be a problem
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Old 11th Nov 2007, 17:10
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If this is true why do the state that you need to live with-in 90min
of the airport ?
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Old 11th Nov 2007, 17:55
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You need to be able to report to your base (in this case, LGW) within 90 minutes if you are on Home Standby. In theory, you are meant to be within 90 minutes from base but in practice they don't mind if you live further away so long as you can fulfill your standby obligations. They also specifiy 90 mins because of issues such as training and meetings where you are needed on base. People who do live away may complain about having to make a trip for, say a one day manual handling course, or a one-hour meeting. The company can come back with "you are meant to live local, it's not our fault if you live away".

Plenty of crew commute. For standbys, they just stay with friends, at BnBs or even drive to a Motorway services centre 90 mins away from LGW and sit around all day with their mobile.
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Old 11th Nov 2007, 18:19
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Thanks for that, I live in Colchester I think it would take about 1hr 45mins
so what the hell I'll give it a go.


Just a quick question, how much can a newbee expect to take home and
how much do you get whilst trainning ?

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Old 11th Nov 2007, 18:35
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Well basic is around the 10K mark, so that should leave around 650 after tax. That is what you would earn while training. The website says you will earn around 500 in flight pay, which from what I've heard is about right. It all depends on how you bid. I think most people would agree take home pay is around 1100 per month, maybe more. I'm certainly open to correction on this however. Go for it anyway, DTTP. I believe now is going to be a really exiting time to join the company.
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Old 12th Nov 2007, 13:58
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Wink Holdpool people

hello to all my fellow 'swimmers'
i was just wondering if anyone in the holdpools (external candidates) have been contacted with regards to any new course training dates for 2008, LHR or LGWSF??

lets hope we all get some good news soon!!
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