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Old 30th May 2007, 04:11
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Angel Emirates salary

Hi There,

Can anyone confirm for me how much you earn per month with Emirates?

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Old 30th May 2007, 11:24
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Crew Rest

MANDOZA- Yes, these are the only guarrenteed flights with crew rest. Some aircraft have been seen with bunks going to BKK and FRA, but this is once in a while, if only because the B777-300 ER is needed for that route.

DXB-JNB is only 8hr and 10min, so is too short to warrant the crew rest bunks on a regular basis. Maybe in the future it will, as we are getting more B777 ULR's, but I think these will be for the upcoming American routes if anything.

I also haven't done JNB in over a year, and as such do not know what rest periods there are on board. Probably 2 soft blocked seats in economy. From what I remember though, on the JNB flight we were working so hard there was no time for rest.

Good news is that from next month there's a 3rd daily flight there, and as a result there are 48 and 72 hr layovers floating around. Not sure when this will become a daily service though.
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OD at Santa Cruz.

I MADE IT! (through the first two stages though) I have been called for the final interview which is scheduled for tomorrow morning.

There were almost 50 aplicants (after an initial screenign done in march from 120 applicants). After the first round it went down to 14. After the english test, only 7 were still on the run to become EK CC! We have completed both, the written and computer based phycological tests.
Lots of forms to fill out, immigration entry forms, application forms, etc. Also, lots of info to read and go through and we recieved the famous DVD along with the "golden package" (or final interview package which has a golden cover letter).

Some photos had to be retaken as my teeth were not showing and the full size piture had to be facing the camera and standing straight forward (no funny angles).

Truly, for those of you planning on attending opendays, just be yourselves and read every single post there is on this forum. It REALY helps! They are only looking out for normal people.

Good luck and thank you everyone!

I will keep you all posted.... FLY RULES!

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Old 31st May 2007, 18:13
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hi everyone!

was looking for the video that introduces Emirates in everyway on an open day!it was on the 7. page now it's missing or could i not just find it.Any ideas where it could be?

thanx
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Old 31st May 2007, 18:59
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go to youtube.com, type emirates crew or whatever and you'll find it. It's divided into 2 parts! Enjoy it!
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Old 31st May 2007, 19:28
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mytcrew!

sweet of you thanx!
waiting for the open day 2 come on the 30th june!
read all the comments and observations and experiences here!
million thanx 2 everyone here sharing their experience!
and how lucky i feel at the moment that i have found such a great forum before i go to OD!


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Old 31st May 2007, 20:30
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De nada Good luck on your OD, wish you all the best! Keep us posted!
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Old 31st May 2007, 20:47
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mytcrew!

sure i will!but u made me helpless with laughter with ur spelling my nicky!thanx god it' just my nick!

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Talking bucharest open day

hi!
anyone going to the open day in bucharest 10/6?
have u received an invitation cos' i have applied 3 weeks ago but this time i got no answer/ invitation!

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WAGES

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Just in regards to your query re: how much cash you can make while working for EK...it really does depend on the amount of flying hours you do, weather you have a huge phone bill for the month, weather you have purchased anything from the staff shop etc...however with saying that I have never got under $5000Dirhams (currency here in the UAE) and that is worked out on the absolute minimum flying hours of about 20-30 hours, this is more then adequate to live on and this is not including your layover allowances you receive only word of advice depending on where you are from, dont convert that amount back to your own local currency because from where I am from it amounts to nothing can be a little depressing, but as I said its more then enough to live on here in Dubai
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HAIR

ELL J
In regards to hair, your will be fine, your hairstyle sounds exactly the same as my friend here in dubai and she is fine....I wouldnt stress!
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recruitment day in Sydney on 2 June

Hey all,

I recently attended the recruitment open day in Sydney (Saturday 2 June) and I just wanted to post my observations. I have actually worked in human resources and personnel recruitment for some 12 years, and I actually attended the Sydney open day, not because I want a job with Emirates, but because I know a couple of people who went along in Melbourne, and because I was interested to learn how a company like Emirates would conduct an open day. Before going I also read a lot of the posts on this forum...

Now, let me say this at the outset. I do not believe that this is an effective or fair means (for either the company or the individuals) to conduct a meaningful recruitment process.

At Sydney, some 300 men and women, approximately 50/50 turned up. The group was so large it was split into two. The second group being asked to wait until the first group was finished. There was a description of life in Dubai, a little bit about the recruitment process and an attempt to show a video on the airline (but the equipment did not work). Then people went in order of seating to either one of the two recruiters to hand over their CV. Before this all people under 21 or without documentation were asked to leave. The whole thing for each group took about 2 -2 1/2 hours.

Firstly, the internet site said that places were limited so book a place. However, on the day it seems it was not necessary to have booked. The recruiters (a New Zealand woman and South African woman) even stated their surprise at the number that had turned up ! In fact, there seemed to be no point in registering for the open day and submitting the CV online. Given this, they should not have been surprised at the numbers - and what the purpose is of submitting a CV online and registering is anyone's guess - it seemed to have no bearing on the outcome.

In fact, even though each candidate handed in their CV personally, there was no way that the two recruiters were going to be able to assess properly each individual according to Emirate's criteria and their CVs, given that each recruiter could only have obtained the most superficial impression of each candidate in the twenty seconds each had to present their CV, and given the fact that there were over 300 people present (even if they had finished the general proceedings at 2pm and intended to call everyone by 6 pm - this would not give enough time to peruse each CV in any meaningful way). I should say that if anyone says there is any meaningful ojective criteria by which to assess people in these circumstances, then they are wrong. If the criteria were simply that a person appears neat, well dressed, smiles, is mature, seems to be a team player, and seems to have a nice personality, then on superficial viewing as was only possible on the open day, this would have meant nearly everyone there! There was just no opportunity for either recruiter to assess those present fairly and equally in any meaningful way.

In fact, I was watching the procedure (when people went to present their CV) very closely. I noted that there were a few really outstanding applicants who seemed to fit in with the general criteria outlined by the recruiters (although they were not very specific in describing the criteria). For example (and there are some other examples I could cite), one guy in particular looked good, presented himself very well (appeared with an open friendly manner - no arrogance), spoke excellent English and (I later discovered) spoke Arabic fluently (they said they were desperate for Arabic speakers - and in my discussions, he was about the only one there who could). He also appeared friendly to other people present. In fact, I fly Emirates business class frequently, and he seemed to fit perfectly the image of cabin crew I have dealt with. However, when he went to the recruiter (the SA woman) to hand over his CV, I noted that she did not even look at him, and when she did so, she only gave him a forced, highly artifical smile. This she did time after time - and it was evident to me that she did not give most people a chance. It was plain to me that this recruiter was making her choice based on nothing more than how the individual approached the table and whether she liked 'something' about them - and believe me, she was deciding her pool of applicants then and there! (I met this guy after the session and got his phone number (among some others there) to find out whether they were successful in this first round - and suprisingly he was not!). This happened with many of those I thought would have been sure to be included in the next day's session.

What all this means is this - the first round (whether a person gets through to the second day when the group session/ interviews/ tests are conducted i.e., the real recruitment process) is entirely subjective to the recruiter - whether there is something about you that the recruiter just happens to like - this determines whether you get an invite to come back the next day. It seems that the decision is actually made when you approach the recruiter to hand over your CV. It makes no difference whether you smile or not, whether you chatted nicely to the recruiter or not, whether you ask questions of the recruiters or answer questions... if she does not like you, then forget it for another six months...

I know this because of my own experience in recruitment - as I said, given they way the day was conducted it was not possible to undertake any meaningul assessment of all those present other than on subjective criteria. So what I would say to you all is this - dress nicely, smile naturally, be yourself... if you dont get through on the first day, dont despair, it probably does not mean that you were not an excellent candidate or that you are someone that Emirates would not have wanted had they actually got to do a proper assessment of you and your skills.

One more thing, I note that many people stated how friendly the recruiters were at various open days. This was NOT the case at Sydney. While the New Zealand recruiter did appear to be genuinely amicable, the South African looked distinctly unhappy, as though she did not want to be there - when she smiled it was the most forced (and unfriendly) attempt that I have seen. I actually felt sorry for anyone who had to approach her with their CV !

As I said, I dont think that the open day was an example of an efficient or fair process. Emirates would be better to stop wasting everybodies time (including their own) and to undertake a more meaningful process that would probably give them better results - for instance, taking 50 or 60 candidates who registered on the internet and restricting the actual recruitment procedures (such as group activities etc) to them. At least there would be a chance to assess a person based on their CV with some actual criteria; and in my experience they would get just as many good applicants this way then they would from an entirely subjective decision randomly made by a recruiter in a process that, frankly, treated most of the applicants like cattle and just wasted their time. All the more the pity since I could see the real effort that most of the candidates had gone to in presenting themselves well. The fact that the present system is not giving Emirates good candidates is proved by the fact that the recruiter said that most Australians did not stay in the job more than a few months ! and I can assure them this is not because Australians are not hard workers, do not behave professionally or becuase they find life in Dubai too hard... it is simply that the process does not actually identify sincere mature candidates who are trully interested in the job.

Sorry for the length of this... I hope it is somewhat helpful to you all...

Regards

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Old 4th Jun 2007, 09:57
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I second all of the above comments. I have no idea how candidates can be assessed in an instant. I have been through the to the final round of interviews with EK twice, both times with two british girls as recruiters. In both instances the recruiters seemed quite bored and I felt like I was wasting my time. In my first final interview one of the recruiters did not even look at me when she asked the questions, which I found very off putting.
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Re: recruitment day in Sydney on 2 June

I absolutely agree with cicco and pramugari.
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Old 4th Jun 2007, 12:51
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Dear Cicco,

Don't apologize for the lengthy post. I feel that you have made your point across and I agree with you totally and also the rest who shares similar views as you.

Some people really have what it takes to be a flight attendant but for some who are genuine and right for the job sometimes get turned down. They need to revise how their interview process is. As a seasoned applicant, I have seen some who really deserves to get in failed and those who went just to try their luck or for the money with no passion of helping or serving got in.

For those who tried and those who want this, believe that you will get it. Seize every chance you get and don't get the didn't-make-it-to-the-mark get to you.

I have a friend she has tried many times for several airlines and she just recently got in after so many times and years of trying. I am so happy for her and she has inspired me to keep trying and don't give up. She told me to believe that dreams do come true despite it may seem like the odds are against you.

If interviews like these are based on luck and how much your interviewer(s) likes you, increase your probability by constantly trying for it. You will get it.
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Hi im from auckland and ive been given a start date of 29 June, pending on my medical results. Ive sent them thru but not heard anything yet...Im just wondering if anyelse on here is from NZ and how long it took for them to contact you after you had done all the medical checks. Ive emailed them but had no reply....
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Hey, I just wanted to share my experience with you regarding OD in Zagreb, Croatia. There were around 50 of us and I was surprised how many guys were there. Because there was not so many people they immediately made it to assesm.day. First of all I would like to agree with the long post before. My two ladies (from Ireland and England) were artificial, when you would aproach them to hand the CV they were so cold. The only contact with them was when we came to one of them, tried to reach 212cm, and they asked 2 questions e.g. What are you currently working, Why did you apply for CC. Then they've put us in groups and we did group discussion (invite 8 people to dinner and explain why). Reading this forum before I did not want to act pushy so I did not reached for paper and pen on the floor, a guy did (and passed). I was polite, my english is as if I was born in U.S.A., I was moderate, wasn't the loudest and wasn't quiet. I have to notice that all guys got in exept 2, maybe they were looking for male CC this time. Another thing, there were girls with loose hair, in jeans, one was even in yellow drees with dots and passed! So my wearing suit and skirt and stocking on 30C was stupid
The whole process really doesn't have any meaning because they should first look at the CV and thoroughly (and only the ones send on e-mail) on their way to that country, and then to check medical results (I mean somebody passes final and then realize they have scoliosis (was one post), couldn't pass eye test or whatever), then they should immediately run English test and then at the end group discussions. Also the psychological effect after watching videos and talking about living in Dubai and then receiving the rejection letter is devastating. Especially without feedback.
It is dissapointing that you should depend on whether one of the recruit. likes you or not, more over because lot of people come a long way. So at the end all the advices on this Forum did not help me, although it is good to read them.
Hope you all have better luck!
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Reply after the medicals

Hey Kimberly, I am not from New Zealand, but I got an email saying they had recieved my medicals just the day after I had scanned and sent in my medicals and reports. My starting date is the 13th of July, but since yours is earlier, perhaps you might want to email them at ccjoiners with your flying out date and confidential number to check on the status of your documents.

In General...
Hearing abt all the frustrating experiances some seem to hav had wit Emirates, I'm quite surprised. I had also applied to Qatar previously, and my Qatar experiance was a lot like wat Cicco described. I was really annoyed with the entire process AND the airline at the end of the day so I can understand where all that is coming from.

But Emirates was extremely professional when they held their recruitment here in Singapore and I loved the entire process! I thought it was quite great of them to reply back right the next day abt the status of my medicals considering all the millions of other applications they are probably processing at the same time. Personally had an excellent time at the assesment days and final interview too. Then again, I guess it's all a perspective thing, because obviously some ppl dnt even hear from them aft the medicals are sent in... hmmm...
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Old 5th Jun 2007, 16:14
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Confirmation email from Dubai

Hello everyone,

Well, I made it to the final interview and I am pretty confident at this point. It was very relaxed and 100% friendly chat. We pretty much talked about my actual job and how I do handle certain situations. Very basic.

All I have to do now is wait for that e-mail from Dubai saying whether or not I am in. The HR people told me that if i am accepted, a copy of the contract will be emailed along with the forms to be completed for my medicals. They will also give me a start date at that point.

Does anyone know about how long until I recieve that email?

Isisnra Quoted: "But Emirates was extremely professional when they held their recruitment here in Singapore and I loved the entire process!"

I totally agree. My personal experience with EK recruitment was great: very professional and 100% friendly. Must have been because they were aussie gals!

Anyhow, good luck guys and dont give up!

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Smania,

I had the same feelings when I attended an OD. Why (one inevitably asks herself) do they ask you explicitly in your invitation to wear a skirt suit if, at the end of the day the person who did not even bother to dress up properly (girl in a funny blouse and jeans) gets in? Just make it a casual event (and call it Emirates recruitment video screening) and we'll all tag along in our playground clothes...or some of us will just be able to decide in advance that it is not worth the time/money to attend.

As a person strongly against all forms of pollution, I am also shocked that they actually make all the people print out all that stuff, when a lot of us actually apply online and with a computer and application ref. no. they could just check all the data they need (which they, by the way, do not do...).

I have also pondered on the strategic placement of the English test...by the time the group discussion was over I could tell who spoke English and who didn't. I did not need an English test to assess that XYZ (a lovely person otherwise) made six grammatical errors in a single sentence. No offence intended, but my observation is (and I have gathered a great deal of experience by now), that if you speak an excellent English you already start with a handicap.

Nevertheless, I want to fly, and no one will stop me.

Good luck to all those waiting, and "kopf hoch" to those who did not meet the Emirates criteria (whatever the criteria might be...)

Samya

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