People standing up when the AC has landed?
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People standing up when the AC has landed?
When the aircraft gets to stand why do people just jump up and block the isles?
I travel a lot from London to Dublin and Ive noticed that this ALWAYS happens on this route especially when i fly with EI or FR(which is worse).
Its silly, cause people dont get off any faster....
Then i flew on a Cityjet flight full of business people a few weeks ago on the same route but from city airport and when we landed everyone stayed seated....
It just drives me mad, seeing people jump up like that, when they cant get off any faster!
I travel a lot from London to Dublin and Ive noticed that this ALWAYS happens on this route especially when i fly with EI or FR(which is worse).
Its silly, cause people dont get off any faster....
Then i flew on a Cityjet flight full of business people a few weeks ago on the same route but from city airport and when we landed everyone stayed seated....
It just drives me mad, seeing people jump up like that, when they cant get off any faster!
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Totally understand what you mean. Do they think the doors will immediately be opened even when the engines are still shutting down?
I tend to give a few evil looks, shake my head and do a PA telling them to remain seated etc. Infuriating or what?!
I tend to give a few evil looks, shake my head and do a PA telling them to remain seated etc. Infuriating or what?!
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I usually announce on the arrival PA that being a woman driver who can't park very well, that it is safer for all concerned to stay seated until I switch off the seatbelt sign. You wouldn't believe, how the Pax suddenly remember discipline!
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"... until the aircraft has come to a complete stop and the fasten seatbelt sign has been switched off"
I hope none will take offense by my message but you should fly domestically in India where many people do leave their seats as soon as the aircraft has left the runway and stopped due to other aircraft.
I remember one occassion where we had to stand still for around ten minutes as there were no parking space available. Around ten to fifteen people stood up and wouldn't sit down again despite the cabin crew's several attempts with PA.
On another occassion in Bombay after a flight from Colombo, several people stood up by the minute the aircraft had slowed down and was taxiing to the terminal. The male cabin crew had to stand up, clap his hands and shout out loud to them.
And the stories go on and on and on and on...
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I hope none will take offense by my message but you should fly domestically in India where many people do leave their seats as soon as the aircraft has left the runway and stopped due to other aircraft.
I remember one occassion where we had to stand still for around ten minutes as there were no parking space available. Around ten to fifteen people stood up and wouldn't sit down again despite the cabin crew's several attempts with PA.
On another occassion in Bombay after a flight from Colombo, several people stood up by the minute the aircraft had slowed down and was taxiing to the terminal. The male cabin crew had to stand up, clap his hands and shout out loud to them.
And the stories go on and on and on and on...
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I do feel sorry for cabin crew who have to deal with this 3+ times a day on regional flights!
I fly about quite a bit, and usually you get half the cabin standing up by the time the aircraft has just come to a stop.
On my last flight the poor hostie got incredibly wound up, and after 2 PA's "Just a reminder to please stay seated until the captain turns off the seatbelt signs" she cracked.
"The seatbelt is STILL on. PLEASE sit down until the sign is turned off, this is for your OWN SAFETY! Thank-you."
She still gave a sweet smile and a thank-you to everyone on dis-embarking, true professionalism, which I appluade.
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I fly about quite a bit, and usually you get half the cabin standing up by the time the aircraft has just come to a stop.
On my last flight the poor hostie got incredibly wound up, and after 2 PA's "Just a reminder to please stay seated until the captain turns off the seatbelt signs" she cracked.
"The seatbelt is STILL on. PLEASE sit down until the sign is turned off, this is for your OWN SAFETY! Thank-you."
She still gave a sweet smile and a thank-you to everyone on dis-embarking, true professionalism, which I appluade.
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It just goes to show how stupid so many passengers are these days. They have no idea that it is for their own safety. Some aircraft, particularly those of certain lo-cost carriers, taxy at extremely high speeds - I couldn't imagine what it would be like if the aircraft performed an "emergency stop".
I have flown with several pilots who listen in on the cabin crew's PA whilst taxying in after landing and if they hear a "remain seated" reminder, they jab on the brakes as hard as they can to teach the offenders a lesson!
I have flown with several pilots who listen in on the cabin crew's PA whilst taxying in after landing and if they hear a "remain seated" reminder, they jab on the brakes as hard as they can to teach the offenders a lesson!
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For us CX regional flights are having the same problem:
Stand up and grab their bags from over head lockers or Turn on their bloody mobile phone while engines are still running. ( CX is not allow mobile phone on until engines stop / seatbelt signs off)
It happened a passenger grab her bag from the over head locker right away after touch down but she injured becasue when she opened the overhead locker there's one hard suticase just dropped on her head.
Stand up and grab their bags from over head lockers or Turn on their bloody mobile phone while engines are still running. ( CX is not allow mobile phone on until engines stop / seatbelt signs off)
It happened a passenger grab her bag from the over head locker right away after touch down but she injured becasue when she opened the overhead locker there's one hard suticase just dropped on her head.
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perhaps they dont understand english in the first place? or they think the CC are just doing their job and dont really care?
What a bunch of losers! go and shove it up their @$$.
What a bunch of losers! go and shove it up their @$$.
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If i see someone stand up whilst taxying in my PA is a firm "Please remain seated until the aircraft has arrived on stand AND the seatbelt sign is switch off....if not for your own safery please consider the safety of your fellow passengers in your immediate fascinity whom you may impact upon and injure should the aircraft make any suddent movements"!!!
It usually embarrasses them enough when all the other passengers start to give them evils and always gives me a good chuckle!!!
It usually embarrasses them enough when all the other passengers start to give them evils and always gives me a good chuckle!!!
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I must admit to standing up when the seatbelt signs were still on. We had flown back into EGCC on my own airline onto the same stand we usually use for the LHR. We parked up, engines winding down, bridge on, door open, seatbelt signs still on. Everyone else, bless them were still sat down. Suddenly the crew twigged what had happened and did a PA saying it was ok to get up now! I have never seen such a well behaved flight.
I suspect that passengers stand up before they are supposed to because:
a) They know that the nanosecond the seatbelt sign goes of everyone will stand up at the same time, desperate to grab their stuff, they're just trying to beat the crowd.
b) They don't appreciate that the a/c may move unpredictably once it's on terra firma or what speed they are still travelling at.
c) They don't believe anything nasty can happen to them when they're not in the air. Let's face it, once they're off the plane they're often packed into a bus on which they're expected to stand up while the Michael Schumacher wannabe at the wheel attempts to break the land speed record, and the plane feels like a much safer environment than that.
Frustrating though, I'll bet.
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a) They know that the nanosecond the seatbelt sign goes of everyone will stand up at the same time, desperate to grab their stuff, they're just trying to beat the crowd.
b) They don't appreciate that the a/c may move unpredictably once it's on terra firma or what speed they are still travelling at.
c) They don't believe anything nasty can happen to them when they're not in the air. Let's face it, once they're off the plane they're often packed into a bus on which they're expected to stand up while the Michael Schumacher wannabe at the wheel attempts to break the land speed record, and the plane feels like a much safer environment than that.
Frustrating though, I'll bet.
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Yea but what bothers me most is... Even when the seat belt sign is switched off, everyone stands up regarless of whether they can get about or not!
Its just funny and annoying to see everyone stand... when they aint getting off any faster!
Funny thing is, i just sit there and laugh at how stupid people are when it comes to stand, i remain in my seat just relaxing, as its a good 10 min before people start to move and get off.
Oh the joys... im back on a flight this friday, should be interesting.....
Its just funny and annoying to see everyone stand... when they aint getting off any faster!
Funny thing is, i just sit there and laugh at how stupid people are when it comes to stand, i remain in my seat just relaxing, as its a good 10 min before people start to move and get off.
Oh the joys... im back on a flight this friday, should be interesting.....
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Try singling out the pax by describing their outfits and asking them to sit down on the PA and you will find that due to sheer embarassment 
they will and so will the others fearing a similar outcome.If there are too many of them then just pick two or three at random.Also understand that not all speak the same language so improvise.
they will and so will the others fearing a similar outcome.If there are too many of them then just pick two or three at random.Also understand that not all speak the same language so improvise.
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Trust me this is an on going problem and has been for years and I can't see it getting any better. I had pax today get up just as we touched down and open the lockers, not even off the runway. I can shout as much as I can but for MY own safety I wont get out of my seat. I'm sure we have all heard the click of the seatbelt release when we have touched down, pax just don't realise that most incidents actually happen ON the ground. It's the same with inflight turbulence, as soon as the sign goes on they all seem to want to get out of their seats to use the loo or something, is this another form of rebelling against the rules? I hate being told what to do, as most people do and maybe this is related to that (aswell as inexperience of flying). I have noticed that it is pretty much only certain cultures that do this, I'm not sure if I am allowed to say which ones, but it's probably due to lack of knowledge and inexperience, however saying that I have had a lot of regular business flyers do the same thing. One thing I have noticed though is the Japanese find it SO difficult to part with their bag, even if it just moves a few inches further under the seat in front and they don't like things being put in the overhead locker, but they have so much duty free and shopping there is no where else for it.
My concern is when pax get up before the sign is turned off, I am not worried about them, they have been warned through many ways, seatbelt sign and PA's and legally we should be fine (from my understanding), I am more concerned about the people around them, who THEY could injure as a result. In what legal poisition does that leave the company if another pax was injured through another pax stupidity. Who is then liable? What more can we do? I have flown a long time and know that my liabilty list grows, (service of alcohol etc) but to be honest if something was to happen like a pax getting out of a seat, opening a locker and baggage falling out, hitting another pax, they are going to sue the AIRLINE for injury 100%. What more can we do?
My concern is when pax get up before the sign is turned off, I am not worried about them, they have been warned through many ways, seatbelt sign and PA's and legally we should be fine (from my understanding), I am more concerned about the people around them, who THEY could injure as a result. In what legal poisition does that leave the company if another pax was injured through another pax stupidity. Who is then liable? What more can we do? I have flown a long time and know that my liabilty list grows, (service of alcohol etc) but to be honest if something was to happen like a pax getting out of a seat, opening a locker and baggage falling out, hitting another pax, they are going to sue the AIRLINE for injury 100%. What more can we do?
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A little nasty but one day i took great pleasure in watching a women fall over and hit her head quite badly while the aircraft was still taxiing. When I went up to crosscheck the front doors she started abusing me saying that she will be getting compensation for what hapened, i said that the injury she had received was of her own accord, not following the captains orders ie the seatbelt sign was still on. We took her details of course to cover our own arses and never heard anything of it again. A small victory for us crew...
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Try singling out the pax by describing their outfits and asking them to sit down on the PA and you will find that due to sheer embarassment they will and so will the others fearing a similar outcome.If there are too many of them then just pick two or three at random.Also understand that not all speak the same language so improvise.
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SAME GOES FOR CREW HOWEVER,
I recently did a flight on a 767 sitting on the jump seat at doors 3. The crew member on the other side of the aisle from me decided to undo his harness and lapstrap as soon as we were off the runway and swung 90degree in his seat so his legs where in the aisles and he was looking directly across to my side. A few moments later the aircraft made a very sudden turn and break (which we later found out was to avoid a tanker which had pulled out infront of us on the taxiway).
I looked back over at my colleague to see him rolling on the floor holding his nose with blood smeared all over the bulkhead that was in the center of the cabin. He gave himself a nice little broken nose. As I was trying to help him I could hear one passenger getting off the plane comment "Thats what happens when you dont practice what you preach"!
How right that punter was!
I recently did a flight on a 767 sitting on the jump seat at doors 3. The crew member on the other side of the aisle from me decided to undo his harness and lapstrap as soon as we were off the runway and swung 90degree in his seat so his legs where in the aisles and he was looking directly across to my side. A few moments later the aircraft made a very sudden turn and break (which we later found out was to avoid a tanker which had pulled out infront of us on the taxiway).
I looked back over at my colleague to see him rolling on the floor holding his nose with blood smeared all over the bulkhead that was in the center of the cabin. He gave himself a nice little broken nose. As I was trying to help him I could hear one passenger getting off the plane comment "Thats what happens when you dont practice what you preach"!
How right that punter was!
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I recall a thread awhile ago discussing the Japanese and how they tend to dislike being separated from their bags.. it was quite an interesting read to see the differing practices of airlines...
funny though, I notice this too on flights with Japanese pax.. of course others do it too, but they seem as a group to do it the most... in all other ways though I find them to be very obedient and willing to follow instruction.. says a lot about their culture really! Love them, always v v polite and ask so nicely for things! (Though sometimes you have to guess what they want as they are too shy to ask!!
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funny though, I notice this too on flights with Japanese pax.. of course others do it too, but they seem as a group to do it the most... in all other ways though I find them to be very obedient and willing to follow instruction.. says a lot about their culture really! Love them, always v v polite and ask so nicely for things! (Though sometimes you have to guess what they want as they are too shy to ask!!
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Had a situation about a year ago into stockholm with sas where the women next to me demanded i get out of my seat to allow her into the isle when there was clearly no chance of moving for the next 5 mins or so.
I asked her why she could not wait till the queue started to move then I would get up. She relied " I am not going to wait for you"
and proceeded to climb over me just to stand in the isle next to me for 5 or 10 mins!!!
The Swedes are oh so nice but i finally found a bad one!
I asked her why she could not wait till the queue started to move then I would get up. She relied " I am not going to wait for you"
and proceeded to climb over me just to stand in the isle next to me for 5 or 10 mins!!!The Swedes are oh so nice but i finally found a bad one!