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Why is it that the frustrations of the workplace are targeted at the union? Why isn't the same rage and contempt shown equally towards the employer? Or the people that work beside you on a day to day basis who continue to rort the system openly for their own benefit?
Reps are no more thick skinned than the average crew member, why would they be? Why is it reasonable to expect that they should be able to cop on the chin the daily bagging they get for doing the work NOBODY else wants to do. And even more disgusting are the people that reap the benfits of working in an industry that has been built on representation but don't actually contribute to currently. Funny how they are always the ones with the loudest mouths down the back galley.
Crew are their own worst enemies, they do what suits them best at the expense of others, and the only time they whinge is if it affects them personally. Where's all the enthiusiastic opinions when a forum's on? Oh thats right, they're not paid to be there so they don't bother showing up. How nice to have the luxury of someone else sticking their neck out on a daily basis, nothing like having someone else take care of the dirty laundry and taking out the trash for you is there?
Generally speaking of course..........
Reps are no more thick skinned than the average crew member, why would they be? Why is it reasonable to expect that they should be able to cop on the chin the daily bagging they get for doing the work NOBODY else wants to do. And even more disgusting are the people that reap the benfits of working in an industry that has been built on representation but don't actually contribute to currently. Funny how they are always the ones with the loudest mouths down the back galley.
Crew are their own worst enemies, they do what suits them best at the expense of others, and the only time they whinge is if it affects them personally. Where's all the enthiusiastic opinions when a forum's on? Oh thats right, they're not paid to be there so they don't bother showing up. How nice to have the luxury of someone else sticking their neck out on a daily basis, nothing like having someone else take care of the dirty laundry and taking out the trash for you is there?
Generally speaking of course..........
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OMG...... sorry for opening the can of worms Seatback ,,, I guess my original post that was personally directed at you touched a raw nerve.....
I guess I need to get my post's checked in future so as not to dare have an opinion and to bow and avert my eyes everytime an almighty walks past......
If anyone takes a post on hear as a personal attack then you really should get a life - AND NO seatback that wasn't directed at you or a union rep , although the last bit where I mentioned you annon username , was.
Blokehostie - This is directed at you - "Put my money where my mouth is" here's $3. Go jetshop
I guess I need to get my post's checked in future so as not to dare have an opinion and to bow and avert my eyes everytime an almighty walks past......
If anyone takes a post on hear as a personal attack then you really should get a life - AND NO seatback that wasn't directed at you or a union rep , although the last bit where I mentioned you annon username , was.
Blokehostie - This is directed at you - "Put my money where my mouth is" here's $3. Go jetshop
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Patty Stacker has arrived
Long time reader first time poster:
I know we are all devastated with the death of Sally Spectra but this forum is getting a little to heated even for The Bold.
Can we all agree to disagree and move on. I am a lover not a fighter and although I have given up the vino I am sure that we can all have a drink and be friends.
The unions do a lot for all airlines in the country but times are changing and we all need to have a kiss and cuddle and get through the rough times and come out the other side.
The union helped me when I was stuck down south and I appreciate your time and effort.
LOVE YOUR WORK
I know we are all devastated with the death of Sally Spectra but this forum is getting a little to heated even for The Bold.
Can we all agree to disagree and move on. I am a lover not a fighter and although I have given up the vino I am sure that we can all have a drink and be friends.
The unions do a lot for all airlines in the country but times are changing and we all need to have a kiss and cuddle and get through the rough times and come out the other side.
The union helped me when I was stuck down south and I appreciate your time and effort.
LOVE YOUR WORK
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Actually....
I read the same post as a slight against Mr Seatback and his team.....
Personally, I have never met a group of people with more integrity in the JQ business.
Your time has always been selfless, your observations and thoughts cherished.
Please save the intelligent comments for those that were raised by wolves....I kindly refer to JQ Management.
T2
I read the same post as a slight against Mr Seatback and his team.....
Personally, I have never met a group of people with more integrity in the JQ business.
Your time has always been selfless, your observations and thoughts cherished.
Please save the intelligent comments for those that were raised by wolves....I kindly refer to JQ Management.
T2
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j j j j e e e e e e e e e e t t t s h o p!
I flew 'The Star' MEL-NTL the other day for the first time since leaving. I forgot about how lovely and sincere the crew are and how much (light years!) more comfortable the 320s are over QF 737s. And what a difference having a seat number made to boarding and how relaxed customers were from the get go. I was surprsied at how much a difference it made. The people around me couldn't sing enough praise about Jetstar.
If only Jetstar management deserved the praise... My hat goes off to the frontline staff at Jetstar for making it work. Management there really do not deserve such loyal and hardworking employees.
I flew 'The Star' MEL-NTL the other day for the first time since leaving. I forgot about how lovely and sincere the crew are and how much (light years!) more comfortable the 320s are over QF 737s. And what a difference having a seat number made to boarding and how relaxed customers were from the get go. I was surprsied at how much a difference it made. The people around me couldn't sing enough praise about Jetstar.
If only Jetstar management deserved the praise... My hat goes off to the frontline staff at Jetstar for making it work. Management there really do not deserve such loyal and hardworking employees.
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Mr Seatback2,
You do a great job as a union rep!
None of my posts were intended as a personal attack.
When I wrote we were down a union rep it was meant for a general discussion. Nothing else.
When I said we need to band together it was in reference to the crew getting along as we used to. Not fighting against each other.
For the record I have never made a deal at the Star/Qlink with crewing!!! Never! I always encourage new and senior crew to join the union.
The agreement with the 'yes men' comment was in no way directed at you Mr Seatback2. In general yes I do get p
with dispos sometimes, come on who doesn't? But I also know Mr Seatback2 tries to be fair.
Thanks.
You do a great job as a union rep!
None of my posts were intended as a personal attack.
When I wrote we were down a union rep it was meant for a general discussion. Nothing else.
When I said we need to band together it was in reference to the crew getting along as we used to. Not fighting against each other.
For the record I have never made a deal at the Star/Qlink with crewing!!! Never! I always encourage new and senior crew to join the union.
The agreement with the 'yes men' comment was in no way directed at you Mr Seatback2. In general yes I do get p
with dispos sometimes, come on who doesn't? But I also know Mr Seatback2 tries to be fair.Thanks.
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Like you Ditzy, I am ex JQ...actually ex IMP/LINK as well. Resigned in the early days of JQ, just wasnt for me.. I have such great memories of those days before JQ came along..Especially in the days when P.B was manager. What a fantastic bunch to work with, the best job I ever had. The great raport with the tech crew, the wonderfully easy fun filled 3 day ROK-MKY trips. Cant imagine I will ever enjoy going to work that much again... O the memories!!!
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Thanks for the kind words of support guys - most appreciated.
Apologies to those who may have felt my response was heated - but given the fuel thrown in my general direction, can you blame me?
Vince1 - thank you for clarifying your original post. Loving your work evermore.
I now retire into my quarters with the EBA in one hand, and stiff drink in the other! Cheers!
Apologies to those who may have felt my response was heated - but given the fuel thrown in my general direction, can you blame me?
Vince1 - thank you for clarifying your original post. Loving your work evermore.
I now retire into my quarters with the EBA in one hand, and stiff drink in the other! Cheers!
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look i think we are all frustrated over management and the constant sniping at ways to 'cut costs' at the expense of crew etc... fact of the matter is, its like this over the entire QF network, it just seemed to start with us.
We couldnt be without the union.. and unless people start joining the union and giving them their full support.. we are going to stay on the same course we are now.
If all of a sudden, the entire (or majorityof the) JQ team decided to 'give it a shot' and be behind the union, we might see great things. until then, union reps are simply swimming upstream, battling to keep their heads above water.
Something has to happen. I am behind them 100% if something does. I just hope that all other crew realise that change cant take place without the support of the crew.
Ditzyboy: great you flew with us again! Yes, its is fantastic with allocated seating, and a real joy to do a 'normal' flight again. My flights are usually fuss free, quiet affairs, where passengers get a normal service (they have to pay but thats the only difference) and really can relax and enjoy their flight. i take enormous pride when pax leave and tell me how much they enjoyed the flight, or 'its jsut like qantas' or 'its nothing like i thought, i will fly jetstar again!' because its all about the CREW. we are lucky that most of our crew really do seem to enjoy their jobs and generally want to be there.
(most and generally being added because of some of the older crew who should just leave if they are unhappy and some of the younger crew who seem to think this would of been a cruisy job that wouldnt intefere with their social lives.. another story altogether)
PattyStacker: welcome darling. about time! LOVE YOUR WORK *mwah*
We couldnt be without the union.. and unless people start joining the union and giving them their full support.. we are going to stay on the same course we are now.
If all of a sudden, the entire (or majorityof the) JQ team decided to 'give it a shot' and be behind the union, we might see great things. until then, union reps are simply swimming upstream, battling to keep their heads above water.
Something has to happen. I am behind them 100% if something does. I just hope that all other crew realise that change cant take place without the support of the crew.
Ditzyboy: great you flew with us again! Yes, its is fantastic with allocated seating, and a real joy to do a 'normal' flight again. My flights are usually fuss free, quiet affairs, where passengers get a normal service (they have to pay but thats the only difference) and really can relax and enjoy their flight. i take enormous pride when pax leave and tell me how much they enjoyed the flight, or 'its jsut like qantas' or 'its nothing like i thought, i will fly jetstar again!' because its all about the CREW. we are lucky that most of our crew really do seem to enjoy their jobs and generally want to be there.
(most and generally being added because of some of the older crew who should just leave if they are unhappy and some of the younger crew who seem to think this would of been a cruisy job that wouldnt intefere with their social lives.. another story altogether)
PattyStacker: welcome darling. about time! LOVE YOUR WORK *mwah*
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Not Again?
One of the past ADL training schools were bundled into a caravan park near the airport under the same premise.
This was at their own expense too after being told to relocate for training purposes I might add.
A polite phone call to the FAAA corrected this dirty affair in little time a few days later.
Madam Janine flagged as many objections as her Gucci heeled knock-offs could support her.
From memory I think their was a little compensation money added for good measure!
This was at their own expense too after being told to relocate for training purposes I might add.
A polite phone call to the FAAA corrected this dirty affair in little time a few days later.
Madam Janine flagged as many objections as her Gucci heeled knock-offs could support her.
From memory I think their was a little compensation money added for good measure!
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Hey Leane,
Depends on how close you want to stay to the airport. The cheapest you'll probably find in close proximity is the Motel Formula 1 which is located at the airport. Otherwise the CBD would be your next best option. I'm sure there would be some fairly resonably priced backpackers with decent facilities & private rooms. I know of a few places close to central railway station which would provide the link to the airport.
A quick search on google would be a good place to start. Let us know how you go.
A320.
Depends on how close you want to stay to the airport. The cheapest you'll probably find in close proximity is the Motel Formula 1 which is located at the airport. Otherwise the CBD would be your next best option. I'm sure there would be some fairly resonably priced backpackers with decent facilities & private rooms. I know of a few places close to central railway station which would provide the link to the airport.
A quick search on google would be a good place to start. Let us know how you go.
A320.
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Hi Leane,
So sorry to hear of your friend's dilemma. Its really sad that this is what it has become.
Will have a think of what accommodation is in the area.
T2- loving the accurate description of JG got a great mental pic when I read that line!
So sorry to hear of your friend's dilemma. Its really sad that this is what it has become.
Will have a think of what accommodation is in the area.
T2- loving the accurate description of JG got a great mental pic when I read that line!
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Girls in my training school split an apartment for six weeks. Search around on the net, possibly in Mascot there are some..Get a group of you together and its relatively cheap.
Ground schoolers are paid base salary from the moment they begin training.
Ground schoolers are paid base salary from the moment they begin training.
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Yes, agree with pinklemonae. Serviced apartments would be a much cheaper option than paying per night at a hotel. I e-mailed Leane7 with some info on serviced apartments in Sydney's Eastern Suburbs and near the airport.
Hope she got the info, let me know Leane.
Hope she got the info, let me know Leane.
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Hi all
I had an interview with JetStar on the 20th of November 2006 and I still haven't heard anything, should i just move on? or is there someone i can call to find out how the prosess is going?
Cheers katiekayt
I had an interview with JetStar on the 20th of November 2006 and I still haven't heard anything, should i just move on? or is there someone i can call to find out how the prosess is going?
Cheers katiekayt