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"It's amazing the number of crew that won't tell us if they break something. I once found one of the crew life jackets hidden away in one of the over-head stowage bins. Evidently they had somehow managed to inflate it by mistake (God only knows what they were trying to do) and then burst it with a knife from a dinner tray in an attempt to destroy the evidence." 
Good heavens, man! - what sort of life jackets are these that can be punctured with a piece of plastic poo that won't cut my chicken?
GQ
Good heavens, man! - what sort of life jackets are these that can be punctured with a piece of plastic poo that won't cut my chicken?
GQ
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'PilotintheMaking',I totally understand your viewpoint being an engineer. I admire that you guys have to fix so many things in such a short amount of time. I always make a point of fixing our engineers on board a tea or coffee if I have time and if the pax or not there yet. 99% of the engineers in my airline are the nicest people and they totally understand us. Unfortunately we do pour the coffee down the drain because we are too lazy to walk to the toilet with coffee pots and when we get there it is occupied.....The coffee at my airline does not leave granules (filterbags in coffee brewer) in the sink however apparently it stains the 'body' of the aircraft and that is expensive to clean. That is what they tell us anyways. In our airline it is mostly the seats that get broken. Screens that do not work.
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"ops491" or whatever your username is, as i cant quote in this darn thing.
I say "there's my baby" even though I went on it a month ago. There's nothing wrong with saying it. That's just being ignorant.
I say "there's my baby" even though I went on it a month ago. There's nothing wrong with saying it. That's just being ignorant.
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Had a good one the other day, aircraft was delayed (the famous coffee down the galley sink again), I was in a rush to sort out the fuel with the flight deck to get the aircraft away, and I was in a foul mood. A passenger stopped me as I was walking through the cabin on the upper deck to the cockpit.
The conversation went as follows:-
Pax: Why is the aircraft delayed, is there a problem with it?
Me: No madam, it's absolutely fine, we just had a blocked sink that they wanted us to clear out before the aircraft departed.
Pax: So that won't cause the aircraft to crash?
Like a blocked sink is going to cause an aircraft to drop out of the sky!
Me: No madam, the worst that can happen if it blocks up again is the sink will overflow and make the galley floor a bit wet and slippery.
Pax: The aircraft is safe to fly then, everything is ok, it's not going to crash or anything like that?
At this point I became slightly impatient, like I'm going to send an unsafe aircraft flying with 300-400 passengers and crew on it. My sarcastic sense of humour kicked in and I said something that maybe I shouldn't have.
Me: Oh definatley not madam, the aircraft is thouroughly checked over each time before it goes flying. I checked it myself and I can assure you that you have a good set of wheels, two wings and you still have three engines bolted to the wings.
Pax: I thought the 747 had four engines?
Me: It does, unfortunatly the gaffa tape that they used at the other end wasn't really up to the task, we've got the coast guard out looking for the other engine as we speek, I guess they will re-attach it the other end!
The passenger looked somewhat nervous and said: Can this aircraft actually fly on three.........
(The passenger trailed off, paused, saw the smirk on my face, looked out of the window and started laughing)
Pax: Oh you're such a tease. That was a cruel joke.
Me: On a serious note madam, I can assure you that we have thoroughly checked the aircraft over and we would not allow it to depart if it was unsafe.
It was very naughty of me and I shouldn't have said it, but thankfully she saw the funney side of it. If she had complained, I could have been in a lot of trouble.
Some people will believe just about anything!
), I was in a rush to sort out the fuel with the flight deck to get the aircraft away, and I was in a foul mood. A passenger stopped me as I was walking through the cabin on the upper deck to the cockpit.The conversation went as follows:-
Pax: Why is the aircraft delayed, is there a problem with it?
Me: No madam, it's absolutely fine, we just had a blocked sink that they wanted us to clear out before the aircraft departed.
Pax: So that won't cause the aircraft to crash?
Like a blocked sink is going to cause an aircraft to drop out of the sky!
Me: No madam, the worst that can happen if it blocks up again is the sink will overflow and make the galley floor a bit wet and slippery.
Pax: The aircraft is safe to fly then, everything is ok, it's not going to crash or anything like that?
At this point I became slightly impatient, like I'm going to send an unsafe aircraft flying with 300-400 passengers and crew on it. My sarcastic sense of humour kicked in and I said something that maybe I shouldn't have.
Me: Oh definatley not madam, the aircraft is thouroughly checked over each time before it goes flying. I checked it myself and I can assure you that you have a good set of wheels, two wings and you still have three engines bolted to the wings.
Pax: I thought the 747 had four engines?
Me: It does, unfortunatly the gaffa tape that they used at the other end wasn't really up to the task, we've got the coast guard out looking for the other engine as we speek, I guess they will re-attach it the other end!
The passenger looked somewhat nervous and said: Can this aircraft actually fly on three.........
(The passenger trailed off, paused, saw the smirk on my face, looked out of the window and started laughing)
Pax: Oh you're such a tease. That was a cruel joke.
Me: On a serious note madam, I can assure you that we have thoroughly checked the aircraft over and we would not allow it to depart if it was unsafe.
It was very naughty of me and I shouldn't have said it, but thankfully she saw the funney side of it. If she had complained, I could have been in a lot of trouble.
Some people will believe just about anything!
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Seldomfitforpurpose, you are missing the point AGAIN!!!
Because this debate is becoming a bit more lengthly than I hoped, I opted to edit this post rather than add to it:-
When does the tool serviceability label say the calibration date is? It sounds like the calibration might be overdue!!!!!
I never thought I'd degrade myself to your level and start slagging people off on Pprune (something I always said I wouldn't do), but your posts did make me laugh, and my bull****ometer (although with less than 30 years, but probably more commercial experience than yours) is now going into overdrive.
I am always going to doubt the experience of anyone who states that they have been in aviation for 30 years, which is always one of the first lines that someone comes out with when they really don't have a clue about the subject.
You state that you are not cabin crew or civilian, which rules out just about any job to do with commercial aviation. Having had a very brief look at your previous posts, you appear to be a pilot for the military, which from what I have been told from former military pilots and engineers, is very different to commercial aviation. If you have been in the military for 30 years then you are probably quite high ranking, and hence used to bossing people around, and judging by some of your posts, have a bit of an attitude problem.
It is interesting how up till now, you don't appear to have any experience in commercial aviation, and have not posted in any of the threads relating to commercial avaition, and then you claim to be an expert and accuse people of bulls**tting on a subject you have no clue about!
If you don't believe the sort of stories that people are telling on here, then you are very nieve about the commercial aviation industry, as in my experience, these things unfourtunatly do happen, some of them fairly regularly. However, in order to keep you happy I have deleted most of my previous posts.
If you don't like the so called ''bulls**t'' that people are posting on the commercial aviation threads, you don't have to read it if you don't want to, but don't come one here slagging people off when they are just trying to take part in a bit of friendly fun by posting their experiences, ''old boy''!
(I didn't know people still said that, I thought it went out the window years ago. You are showing your age).
"Some people will believe just about anything!"
A bit like your most of your posts PITM..........
A bit like your most of your posts PITM..........
PITM,
Touched no nerve with me old boy as I am not CC or a civilian however my 30 odd years of aviation and flying experiance have honed my bull****ometer and reading your posts has it banging off scale quite a lot
Touched no nerve with me old boy as I am not CC or a civilian however my 30 odd years of aviation and flying experiance have honed my bull****ometer and reading your posts has it banging off scale quite a lot
When does the tool serviceability label say the calibration date is? It sounds like the calibration might be overdue!!!!!
I never thought I'd degrade myself to your level and start slagging people off on Pprune (something I always said I wouldn't do), but your posts did make me laugh, and my bull****ometer (although with less than 30 years, but probably more commercial experience than yours) is now going into overdrive.
I am always going to doubt the experience of anyone who states that they have been in aviation for 30 years, which is always one of the first lines that someone comes out with when they really don't have a clue about the subject.
You state that you are not cabin crew or civilian, which rules out just about any job to do with commercial aviation. Having had a very brief look at your previous posts, you appear to be a pilot for the military, which from what I have been told from former military pilots and engineers, is very different to commercial aviation. If you have been in the military for 30 years then you are probably quite high ranking, and hence used to bossing people around, and judging by some of your posts, have a bit of an attitude problem.
It is interesting how up till now, you don't appear to have any experience in commercial aviation, and have not posted in any of the threads relating to commercial avaition, and then you claim to be an expert and accuse people of bulls**tting on a subject you have no clue about!
If you don't believe the sort of stories that people are telling on here, then you are very nieve about the commercial aviation industry, as in my experience, these things unfourtunatly do happen, some of them fairly regularly. However, in order to keep you happy I have deleted most of my previous posts.
If you don't like the so called ''bulls**t'' that people are posting on the commercial aviation threads, you don't have to read it if you don't want to, but don't come one here slagging people off when they are just trying to take part in a bit of friendly fun by posting their experiences, ''old boy''!
(I didn't know people still said that, I thought it went out the window years ago. You are showing your age).
Last edited by Pilot_in_the_making; 27th Aug 2007 at 20:49. Reason: My posts are becoming too long and numerous and pissing of Seldomfitforpurpose!!!!!
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One day a passenger dropped his watch into the toilet and was clever enough to flush it.
It took about 2 hours for the engineers to get it out as pax wanted it back!!!!
Yuck!
Not sure if it had caused the loo to block, but I really did feel sorry for that poor engineer having to take the toilet apart and dig in it for two hours!!!
It took about 2 hours for the engineers to get it out as pax wanted it back!!!!
Yuck!
Not sure if it had caused the loo to block, but I really did feel sorry for that poor engineer having to take the toilet apart and dig in it for two hours!!!
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Toilets are admittedly a slightly unfourtunate and unpleasent side to the job I will admit. Really can't see why the passenger would want it back after it had been in the bog. Some people are strange. 
Had an aircraft came in a few weeks ago. The crew reported a blocked sink in one of the toilets. Found that someone had removed the plug and the strainer (they just lift out on our aircraft) and then stuffed a load of carrots and a small plastic toy soldier down it.
It does kind of make you wander what drives some people.
Had an aircraft came in a few weeks ago. The crew reported a blocked sink in one of the toilets. Found that someone had removed the plug and the strainer (they just lift out on our aircraft) and then stuffed a load of carrots and a small plastic toy soldier down it.
It does kind of make you wander what drives some people.
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Pilot_in_the_making I do agree with you regarding some crew!! Eventhough some crew has taken it personal, it is true that some people should not be doing this job.
And I also agree that some crew don't care much about writting down the defects on the book, but they keep complaining about not being fixed! How is it going to be fixed if we don't write it down!!!
BUT LETS GO BACK TO THICK PAX which is what we like!!
The other day in a flight to larnaca we had the most weird pax!! It was like a mad house!!
One of the pax asked the purser:
Pax: what type of a/c is this?
SCCM: 767-300
Pax: no, who does it belong to?
SCCM: Company name
Pax: no, what type of a/c?
SCCM: 767-300
Pax: no, you know like BA, Virgin, etc
SCCM: Company name
Pax: no, what does it say outside on the a/c?
SCCM: Company name
Pax: no! it fu
doesn't!!!!
And I also agree that some crew don't care much about writting down the defects on the book, but they keep complaining about not being fixed! How is it going to be fixed if we don't write it down!!!
BUT LETS GO BACK TO THICK PAX which is what we like!!
The other day in a flight to larnaca we had the most weird pax!! It was like a mad house!!
One of the pax asked the purser:
Pax: what type of a/c is this?
SCCM: 767-300
Pax: no, who does it belong to?
SCCM: Company name
Pax: no, what type of a/c?
SCCM: 767-300
Pax: no, you know like BA, Virgin, etc
SCCM: Company name
Pax: no, what does it say outside on the a/c?
SCCM: Company name
Pax: no! it fu
doesn't!!!!
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PITM,
Touched no nerve with me old boy as I am not CC or a civilian however my 30 odd years of aviation and flying experiance have honed my bull****ometer and reading your posts has it banging off scale quite a lot
Touched no nerve with me old boy as I am not CC or a civilian however my 30 odd years of aviation and flying experiance have honed my bull****ometer and reading your posts has it banging off scale quite a lot
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I once had an angry woman (well dressed and well spoken) demand my crew sandwich because we ran out of passenger sandwiches.
I worked for a low cost airline.
Yeah lady, you just have my sarnie whilst I pass out from hunger from working an 11 hour without food.
I worked for a low cost airline.
Yeah lady, you just have my sarnie whilst I pass out from hunger from working an 11 hour without food.
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Working on a CUN - LGW flight we passed through moderate clear air turbulence. The seat belt sign was on and a woman decided to go to the toilet.
I advised her that the seat belt sign was on, and to take care. She said 'I know, I am ok as I am a frequent flyer!!'
Does that make her immune for any sort of injury!?
I advised her that the seat belt sign was on, and to take care. She said 'I know, I am ok as I am a frequent flyer!!'
Does that make her immune for any sort of injury!?
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SLF here. I was recently sitting next to a guy who tried to eat his moist towelette out in the Middle East. Quickly spat it out, into his sick bag. This was plane full of migrant workers routing Dxb-Doha on their way home, very inexperienced air travellers. Totally different crew behaviour shown towards Europeans/migrant workers. I don't know if I would call it racism. It was certainly pragmatic.
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A captain once wanted my food and complained he doesnt like the food the crew gave him. I informed him this is not airline food. I cooked this food at home and plated and heated it onboard to eat! This after the captain took the first class crew's sandwiches because he wasnt satisfied with the type of sandwiches that was given to him. Too much ego and selfishness!
This after the captain took the first class crew's sandwiches because he wasnt satisfied with the type of sandwiches that was given to him. Too much ego and selfishness!
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Walking through the cabin this morning...
Any tea, would you like some tea, lovely cup of tea...
Pax waves their cup in my face
(Is that a "yes please, I'd love a brew")
Plonks it on my tray without a word.
I pour in the aforementioned beverage.
Pax removes cup, and states "sugar".
Arrggghhhhh
"I'm not stupid, I can understand whole sentances" but instead of saying anything I simply smiled and invited them to help themselves from the bowl on the tray.
Off I trot down the cabin when I hear pax shouting "I wanted coffee you f**king idiot"
What what what??? Now my back is up.
"What part of my saying tea, tea, tea lead you to believe I was serving coffee?"
"Don't speak to me like that, I pay your f**king wages. Go and pour this **** down the sink and get me a f**king coffee"
I stared at him, then continued on because I really didn't know what to do or say other than f**k off you f**king c**t! I now of course have thousands of cutting comebacks.
This "gentleman" was travelling with his wife and two children. What a great example to set them.
I'm not sure if this should be posted somewhere else but I'd like to know what other crew would have said / done to this guy.
Any tea, would you like some tea, lovely cup of tea...
Pax waves their cup in my face
(Is that a "yes please, I'd love a brew")
Plonks it on my tray without a word.
I pour in the aforementioned beverage.
Pax removes cup, and states "sugar".
Arrggghhhhh
"I'm not stupid, I can understand whole sentances" but instead of saying anything I simply smiled and invited them to help themselves from the bowl on the tray.
Off I trot down the cabin when I hear pax shouting "I wanted coffee you f**king idiot"
What what what??? Now my back is up.
"What part of my saying tea, tea, tea lead you to believe I was serving coffee?"
"Don't speak to me like that, I pay your f**king wages. Go and pour this **** down the sink and get me a f**king coffee"
I stared at him, then continued on because I really didn't know what to do or say other than f**k off you f**king c**t! I now of course have thousands of cutting comebacks.
This "gentleman" was travelling with his wife and two children. What a great example to set them.
I'm not sure if this should be posted somewhere else but I'd like to know what other crew would have said / done to this guy.
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R.S when he said "Don't speak to me like that, I pay your f**king wages" you should have said oh good can I have a rise then. 
I work on the railways as I have said on another post.
And we get stupid Questions too like.
At Manchester Victoria. "Is this Train going To Leeds","Yes","Does it stop at Rochdale". Why 2 questions for one answer.
any way this is a plane forum not at a railway so I will stop there.
Big T
I work on the railways as I have said on another post.
And we get stupid Questions too like.
At Manchester Victoria. "Is this Train going To Leeds","Yes","Does it stop at Rochdale". Why 2 questions for one answer.
any way this is a plane forum not at a railway so I will stop there.
Big T
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I take it you were way up in the sky otherwise you would've off loaded him 
. next time you come across people like him you say:
A: Please mind your language, there are other people around you and i'm sure they don't appreciate it.
B: You are what we call a "disruptive pax" so carry on and we WILL have the police waiting for you on arrival
C: I am not your made nor your slave. I am here firstly for your safety in case of an emergency, then to offer you drinks (you never say "serve you drinks" cause the idiot will say that you are his servant). So technically your life is in my hands (smile.and wink, they don't like that)
D: Anything else i can get you, water, more sugar, a "Good manners " book?
Just the other day i was disembarking and this pax stops (this part has been changed after the moderator in all fairness pointed i said something i shouldn't have and he is so right) and says to me: "The landing was horrible, very poor and too bumpy"
My face drops (well my face drops when pax open their mouth roughly 400times a day...).I'm looking at my uniform, yup, i still wear the skirt, still have high heals, one wing...my name badge is till there, yup, i'm still a flight attendant, NOT A PILOT!!!!!!!!!!!!! So i smiled at him and said "i'll inform the Flight Deck about your comment but can i just suggest that next time you do the landing?" and continued saying "bye bye, thank you, have a nice day" to the remaining pax.
We have to addmit we have the best jobs in the world, i now a days don't get annoyed cause of Delta Foxtrots (the nice way to say Dumb Fs), i just have a good laugh after my day is finished on their expense. The best way to get your own back at rude pax r.s is to smile even more and be more nice to them. 
Read you soon. take care. XX
. next time you come across people like him you say:A: Please mind your language, there are other people around you and i'm sure they don't appreciate it.
B: You are what we call a "disruptive pax" so carry on and we WILL have the police waiting for you on arrival
C: I am not your made nor your slave. I am here firstly for your safety in case of an emergency, then to offer you drinks (you never say "serve you drinks" cause the idiot will say that you are his servant). So technically your life is in my hands (smile.and wink, they don't like that)
D: Anything else i can get you, water, more sugar, a "Good manners " book?
Just the other day i was disembarking and this pax stops (this part has been changed after the moderator in all fairness pointed i said something i shouldn't have and he is so right) and says to me: "The landing was horrible, very poor and too bumpy"
My face drops (well my face drops when pax open their mouth roughly 400times a day...
).I'm looking at my uniform, yup, i still wear the skirt, still have high heals, one wing...my name badge is till there, yup, i'm still a flight attendant, NOT A PILOT!!!!!!!!!!!!! So i smiled at him and said "i'll inform the Flight Deck about your comment but can i just suggest that next time you do the landing?" and continued saying "bye bye, thank you, have a nice day" to the remaining pax.We have to addmit we have the best jobs in the world, i now a days don't get annoyed cause of Delta Foxtrots (the nice way to say Dumb F
s), i just have a good laugh after my day is finished on their expense. The best way to get your own back at rude pax r.s is to smile even more and be more nice to them. Read you soon. take care. XX
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Abusing_the_sky How is the "asian" status you describe relevant to your story? Are you inviting us all to draw some sort of further conclusions from this adjective - if not, why mention it.
What are the grounds for assuming that the passenger only recently aquired a British passport? Whether true or not, how is that relevant to your story?
I'd suggest that the above comments reveal rather more about your own prejudices than about the incident described.
Let me be very clear - Racism of any kind will not be tolerated on this board: Comments such as "No discrimination here, but...." are not a get out of jail free card for racist comments.
This post has not been written for the purpose of enabling debate on this, or any other thread - so don't try. One final time - racist comments will not be tolerated.
What are the grounds for assuming that the passenger only recently aquired a British passport? Whether true or not, how is that relevant to your story?
I'd suggest that the above comments reveal rather more about your own prejudices than about the incident described.
Let me be very clear - Racism of any kind will not be tolerated on this board: Comments such as "No discrimination here, but...." are not a get out of jail free card for racist comments.
This post has not been written for the purpose of enabling debate on this, or any other thread - so don't try. One final time - racist comments will not be tolerated.