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Airbust what happened???Did you get a "thankyou for your time and effort ..... but unfortunately on this occasion..." letter???
Have they already sent those out to people? I know someone who hasn't heard anything yet and was wondering if the thanks but no thanks letters have gone out... I'm sorry if you got one of those letters but keep trying and never give up, cos when you least expect it, one of the airlines will be knocking down your front door!
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Hi still on the ground!
Yes I recieved the no thanks letter. I was most suprised given my industry experience and passion but it is their loss.
No never give up is my moto as other opportunities do come along. Has anyone else recieved these letters yet? Which I hope I am the only one and every body else gets in.
Good luck to you!
I am dissappointed no doubt as they seemed like a great team!
PS private message me if you would like too.
Yes I recieved the no thanks letter. I was most suprised given my industry experience and passion but it is their loss.
No never give up is my moto as other opportunities do come along. Has anyone else recieved these letters yet? Which I hope I am the only one and every body else gets in.
Good luck to you!
I am dissappointed no doubt as they seemed like a great team!
PS private message me if you would like too.
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applivation on hold for twelve months
Hi Airbust and all,
I recieved an email today from the team. i am very excited but still a bit unsure. Basically the letter reads that i didnt get the first round offers but they are plased to advise that my details have been put on 'our holding pool'. It also goes on to say that it will be held for 12 months and they can call me to attend their training school within that time and that they will give me enough time to submit a resignation to my current employer.
I have to submit an acceptance and I guess just wait.
What do you think this means? Unfortunatly I have had bad experiences with things such as your on file for 12 months...
Is it due to the fact that they are still unsure how many aircraft they have? And do i take it as yes i have got a job when one comes up in that time?
I am a little confuse but also happy and excited.
What do you all think?
anth
p.s arbus was this the same letter?
I recieved an email today from the team. i am very excited but still a bit unsure. Basically the letter reads that i didnt get the first round offers but they are plased to advise that my details have been put on 'our holding pool'. It also goes on to say that it will be held for 12 months and they can call me to attend their training school within that time and that they will give me enough time to submit a resignation to my current employer.
I have to submit an acceptance and I guess just wait.
What do you think this means? Unfortunatly I have had bad experiences with things such as your on file for 12 months...
Is it due to the fact that they are still unsure how many aircraft they have? And do i take it as yes i have got a job when one comes up in that time?
I am a little confuse but also happy and excited.
What do you all think?
anth
p.s arbus was this the same letter?
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Thats great Anth
I think that the holding pool is a good sign because they are going to need more crew when they get more aircraft, and as they will have you in the holding pool, they will look to you guys before anyone else.... and they will be getting more aircraft early next year - and another thing... if Ozjet shows signs of shakiness or that it wasn't the success that they had planned it to be (lets face it... it is the airline industry) you can gauge that while you are still working in your other job - and you don't have to take it if you feel that it might not be around in a year or so's time.
Well done. It isn't a no letter. I think you have done very well.
All the best, and maybe I will see you online
Still on the ground
I think that the holding pool is a good sign because they are going to need more crew when they get more aircraft, and as they will have you in the holding pool, they will look to you guys before anyone else.... and they will be getting more aircraft early next year - and another thing... if Ozjet shows signs of shakiness or that it wasn't the success that they had planned it to be (lets face it... it is the airline industry) you can gauge that while you are still working in your other job - and you don't have to take it if you feel that it might not be around in a year or so's time.
Well done. It isn't a no letter. I think you have done very well.
All the best, and maybe I will see you online
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congratulations to everyone who gets in! it must be really exciting to be starting with a BRAND new all BUSINESS class carrier!!! Good luck to all of you and have fun!!
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a BRAND new all BUSINESS class carrier!!!
YOU MUST BE JOKING! Wait and see when one day they will let you know that they can't aford to pay your wages any more, and then tell me wich kind of BUSINESS CLASS CARRIER you had been working for.
GOOD LUCK and get a solicitor as soon as possible.
GOOD LUCK and get a solicitor as soon as possible.
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why be so negative
Eaf122,
Its ppl like you that I often wonder what are you doing or why do you want to be in the Industry? I think support is really what this website is about, not bitching and complaining....I only hope employers keep track of these posts.
As for the coment I think you need to read further what Ozjet is all about before blowing your trumpet. Firstly Its business class service and seating at economy prices. Secondly Ozjet are trying to put service and glammer back into the air (something that other airlines these days dont really offer). Thirdly from my wonderful experience so far with these employes I have found them to be prompt, proffessional and caring to us...Not only will we be put on as full time employees we will have the benefits that airlines once offered.
Finally did you know that the airoplanes are actually owned? therfore they are already infront. Along with other companies owned O/S, are major Airline Training centres and other carriers to name just a few.
i dont want to get into debates on here with people because thats what i am NOT about but it did upset me to see things like that. You know how hard it is to get into Cabincrew so why not support us instead of giving us flack. Also if you were any kind of person maybe you should express your feelings leaving your real name?
Congrats again to all the guys at Ozjet for making our journey so wonderful.
Its ppl like you that I often wonder what are you doing or why do you want to be in the Industry? I think support is really what this website is about, not bitching and complaining....I only hope employers keep track of these posts.
As for the coment I think you need to read further what Ozjet is all about before blowing your trumpet. Firstly Its business class service and seating at economy prices. Secondly Ozjet are trying to put service and glammer back into the air (something that other airlines these days dont really offer). Thirdly from my wonderful experience so far with these employes I have found them to be prompt, proffessional and caring to us...Not only will we be put on as full time employees we will have the benefits that airlines once offered.
Finally did you know that the airoplanes are actually owned? therfore they are already infront. Along with other companies owned O/S, are major Airline Training centres and other carriers to name just a few.
i dont want to get into debates on here with people because thats what i am NOT about but it did upset me to see things like that. You know how hard it is to get into Cabincrew so why not support us instead of giving us flack. Also if you were any kind of person maybe you should express your feelings leaving your real name?
Congrats again to all the guys at Ozjet for making our journey so wonderful.
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Anth1980,
I couldn't agree with you more. Any potential OzJet employee can figure out for themselves the history of the company's founder and IMHO - his success in Europe speaks for itself. It is in the public domain that there is an ongoing issue with the financial compensation to some of the employees of the 742 operation which ended prematurely due to the fall-away of an essential contract. This does not a bad man - or indeed a bad company maketh.
I am, along with most contributors to this thread, tremendously excited to become part of the start-up of this new airline, and those of us who have had to travel extensively for business on the domestic scene in Australia in recent years, know that increased competition is WAY overdue - particularly for the business traveller. The comfort and convenience for the highest yield customers (the ones who travel for business, but need the flexibility of a fully changable ticket and more often than not - cannot travel on business class either due to company policy or quite often because a business ticket quite simply is not available on the route sector), seems to have been forgotten by QANTAS in their never-ending quest for increased load factors (read more bums-on-seats). There is no question i my mind that OzJet will succeed and I look forward to become part of an airline that will bring back some of the enchantment and satisfaction that air travel once had. And by the way - they are a great bunch of people and with the modest expectations of the airline in terms of market share - we are likely to get to know most of the people working for the airline, rather than being a number on a seniority list being rostered for a flight with people you never met before in your life and most likely will never meet again.
Hang in there Anth1980 - the expansion WILL happen and I am sure the holding pool will be a very good place to be in the very near future.
I couldn't agree with you more. Any potential OzJet employee can figure out for themselves the history of the company's founder and IMHO - his success in Europe speaks for itself. It is in the public domain that there is an ongoing issue with the financial compensation to some of the employees of the 742 operation which ended prematurely due to the fall-away of an essential contract. This does not a bad man - or indeed a bad company maketh.
I am, along with most contributors to this thread, tremendously excited to become part of the start-up of this new airline, and those of us who have had to travel extensively for business on the domestic scene in Australia in recent years, know that increased competition is WAY overdue - particularly for the business traveller. The comfort and convenience for the highest yield customers (the ones who travel for business, but need the flexibility of a fully changable ticket and more often than not - cannot travel on business class either due to company policy or quite often because a business ticket quite simply is not available on the route sector), seems to have been forgotten by QANTAS in their never-ending quest for increased load factors (read more bums-on-seats). There is no question i my mind that OzJet will succeed and I look forward to become part of an airline that will bring back some of the enchantment and satisfaction that air travel once had. And by the way - they are a great bunch of people and with the modest expectations of the airline in terms of market share - we are likely to get to know most of the people working for the airline, rather than being a number on a seniority list being rostered for a flight with people you never met before in your life and most likely will never meet again.
Hang in there Anth1980 - the expansion WILL happen and I am sure the holding pool will be a very good place to be in the very near future.
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thanks for the support
Waav8r......
Thanks so much for posting the reply, its great to get the support from everyone...
Congrats also to you getting a position. i have a strong feeling that Ozjet will make a large impact to its small market.
I know of one other person who is in the pool like me....But the letter is quite strongly written and we believe we will get a call later this year. I hope so as i think the guys there at Ozjet are great, they are very very proffessional and get the feeling they are few of the best in the Industry.
Good luck with it all and keep me posted as to whats happening. PM me if you want my msn.
Anthony
Thanks so much for posting the reply, its great to get the support from everyone...
Congrats also to you getting a position. i have a strong feeling that Ozjet will make a large impact to its small market.
I know of one other person who is in the pool like me....But the letter is quite strongly written and we believe we will get a call later this year. I hope so as i think the guys there at Ozjet are great, they are very very proffessional and get the feeling they are few of the best in the Industry.
Good luck with it all and keep me posted as to whats happening. PM me if you want my msn.
Anthony
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anth1980 & waav8r
sorry guys, i think you miss my point, we are not talking about to be negative here, i just want it to let every one know about the kind of person you are going to work for, when i started to work for european aviation they told me the same you have been told, first class this, first class that, a lot of contracts here, there, expansion and bla, bla , bla, untill one day 560 people didnt have any money to pay they bills. and still waitting for answers and of course our moneys.
waav8r let me tell you that the fall-away of an essential contract did not put the 742 operations out, it goes more far than that, you should find out the real reasons before to make an opinion about this subject.
You can do what ever you want, i just wanted to open your eyes, the only thing i can tell you is OPEN YOUR EYES BEFORE ITS TO LATE.
I really want to wish you all the best to you and everybody in OZJET, it s nothing against the cabin crew, the only thing we want its that PAUL STOODART doesnt do it again with his own people of AUSTRALIA and any where in the world because what he did here in UK, doesnt do any good to the AIRLINE INDUSTRY.
GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE
sorry guys, i think you miss my point, we are not talking about to be negative here, i just want it to let every one know about the kind of person you are going to work for, when i started to work for european aviation they told me the same you have been told, first class this, first class that, a lot of contracts here, there, expansion and bla, bla , bla, untill one day 560 people didnt have any money to pay they bills. and still waitting for answers and of course our moneys.
waav8r let me tell you that the fall-away of an essential contract did not put the 742 operations out, it goes more far than that, you should find out the real reasons before to make an opinion about this subject.
You can do what ever you want, i just wanted to open your eyes, the only thing i can tell you is OPEN YOUR EYES BEFORE ITS TO LATE.
I really want to wish you all the best to you and everybody in OZJET, it s nothing against the cabin crew, the only thing we want its that PAUL STOODART doesnt do it again with his own people of AUSTRALIA and any where in the world because what he did here in UK, doesnt do any good to the AIRLINE INDUSTRY.
GOOD LUCK TO EVERYONE
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EAF122 - I really do empathise with you and what you have / are still going through with the whole European mess caused by one Paul Stoddart. Australia has very tough industrial relations laws and unions which do not allow companies in this country to simply not pay people because they do not feel like it - there is no way he would get away with that over here. I can speak from personal experience having worked for Ansett (look what happened there) and been made redundant from positions 3 times since.
Australian Aviation is also starved of opportunities for people wanting to get into the industry we have one major airline which will never be hiring full time or permanent Cabin Crew in the near future, two budget airlines and a collection of regional turbo prop operators that pay their staff on the poverty line - recruitment is cut throat. This is I think is why most Australians on this forum will constantly give you the positive and not see the negative or turn down an opportunity to work for OZJET.
I heard this morning that recently recruited Cabin Managers are being drafted by OZJET early and will commence training in the next two weeks for the CASA proving flights - which are happening sooner than everyone thinks.
Australian Aviation is also starved of opportunities for people wanting to get into the industry we have one major airline which will never be hiring full time or permanent Cabin Crew in the near future, two budget airlines and a collection of regional turbo prop operators that pay their staff on the poverty line - recruitment is cut throat. This is I think is why most Australians on this forum will constantly give you the positive and not see the negative or turn down an opportunity to work for OZJET.
I heard this morning that recently recruited Cabin Managers are being drafted by OZJET early and will commence training in the next two weeks for the CASA proving flights - which are happening sooner than everyone thinks.
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Thank you very much for your reply, and for understanding our situation down here.
Like i said before my only concern, its that those things dont happen any more any where in the world, because those people behind the desk they dont give a S**** about the hard work of the cabin crew, they only think about themself and money.
Thank you and wish you all the best to the people of this great country call AUSTRALIA.
Thank you very much for your reply, and for understanding our situation down here.
Like i said before my only concern, its that those things dont happen any more any where in the world, because those people behind the desk they dont give a S**** about the hard work of the cabin crew, they only think about themself and money.
Thank you and wish you all the best to the people of this great country call AUSTRALIA.
Show me a person who survives a career in aviation without getting stung once (and who isnt kidding themselves), and I will show you a job advertisement with no requirements flying around the world, for $300,000 a year...
(hopes to god theres no one!)..
I myself have been stung once, to the tune of $18,000, (dont ask!)... I am only 21, and that was every cent I had! The sad thing is, i took it and didnt even fight it - because i didnt have a cent to fight with, especially against some of the high priced lawyers some aviation companies tend to have.
But the big question is: Why do i constantly come back for more?
Answer: Because I love it. The thought of doing anything other than aviation scares me, as it dosent interest me one bit. Its all I know. I may be only 21, but I have not known anything else for a long time. I started washing light aircraft at 14 on weekends, paid for my flying training with money I earnt from my only non aviation related jobs, a cinema (was crap - hid in the cinemas eating popcorn), a supermarket (where I was held up with a vegetable), and a medical centre (where I caught every disease known to humankind that dosent involve having sex).
I keep coming back because even if I am poor, I am happy. This confuses many of my friends in boring repetitive jobs in medical centres earning twice my last full time flying wage, but I am happy.
So, to quote Steve off Today Show (dons ugly suit and condecending tone), be alert but not alarmed. Until something actually happens like airlines going under, or any other aviation rumours for that matter, take it on board, but dont go freaking out and turning down job offers...
I reckon it will be a big success - good luck to all those starting! Hopefully I will be with you soon!!!
xx
(hopes to god theres no one!)..
I myself have been stung once, to the tune of $18,000, (dont ask!)... I am only 21, and that was every cent I had! The sad thing is, i took it and didnt even fight it - because i didnt have a cent to fight with, especially against some of the high priced lawyers some aviation companies tend to have.
But the big question is: Why do i constantly come back for more?
Answer: Because I love it. The thought of doing anything other than aviation scares me, as it dosent interest me one bit. Its all I know. I may be only 21, but I have not known anything else for a long time. I started washing light aircraft at 14 on weekends, paid for my flying training with money I earnt from my only non aviation related jobs, a cinema (was crap - hid in the cinemas eating popcorn), a supermarket (where I was held up with a vegetable), and a medical centre (where I caught every disease known to humankind that dosent involve having sex).
I keep coming back because even if I am poor, I am happy. This confuses many of my friends in boring repetitive jobs in medical centres earning twice my last full time flying wage, but I am happy.
So, to quote Steve off Today Show (dons ugly suit and condecending tone), be alert but not alarmed. Until something actually happens like airlines going under, or any other aviation rumours for that matter, take it on board, but dont go freaking out and turning down job offers...
I reckon it will be a big success - good luck to all those starting! Hopefully I will be with you soon!!!
xx
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It wont work,simple as that.
Qantas gets the business market due to the frequent flyer program,qf club etc.no points means business people wont fly Ozjet.They are flying clapped out,old 737s, which cannot be efficient.Thats another problem.No offence to those going there,but I think they will close shortly after they open if they open at all.And the man behind it is famous for the misfortunes of employees of a charter airline in the UK.Its done before it starts.
Qantas gets the business market due to the frequent flyer program,qf club etc.no points means business people wont fly Ozjet.They are flying clapped out,old 737s, which cannot be efficient.Thats another problem.No offence to those going there,but I think they will close shortly after they open if they open at all.And the man behind it is famous for the misfortunes of employees of a charter airline in the UK.Its done before it starts.
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it wont work?
MY MOTHER ALWAYS SAID.......
if you dont have anything good to say dont say it at all.
why dont we all just wait before we start commenting...who knows it may just work....?
if you dont have anything good to say dont say it at all.
why dont we all just wait before we start commenting...who knows it may just work....?
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Has it ever occured to anyone that Ozjet is not ONLY for business class travellers?? I know a few people that only fly business class because they can afford to; prefer the service, or they don't fit economy seats!!! Qantas is the only domestic carrier that provides this service. Its about time that they had a bit of competition!
I think Ozjet will attract people from all areas - I don't think that EVERY traveller is all about earning points etc... I do think there will be passengers out there that would love the fact that there are only 60 seats in the aircraft with more privacy and more personalised service.
I also think that alot of government people might choose to fly this airline, and perhaps even charter it on a regular basis.
I think those people who have nothing positive to say about this airline need to think outside the square.
Good luck to everyone who has been successful in gaining a position
I think Ozjet will attract people from all areas - I don't think that EVERY traveller is all about earning points etc... I do think there will be passengers out there that would love the fact that there are only 60 seats in the aircraft with more privacy and more personalised service.
I also think that alot of government people might choose to fly this airline, and perhaps even charter it on a regular basis.
I think those people who have nothing positive to say about this airline need to think outside the square.
Good luck to everyone who has been successful in gaining a position
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Yep, OK.........
Why is there so many disgruntled "Business" passengers out there then? Some flying on Virgin because they dislike Qantas so much. Some still flying Qantas in the absence of a competitor. There IS a market there waiting to be tapped into..
Clapped out? Try well-maintained. Who cares if they are old - passengers will be more interested (if they are at all) in the presentation inside. They may not be the most efficient A/C, but this is offset by the fact they have no leasing/payment costs.
After seeing your location, it all makes sense...........
It wont work,simple as that.
Qantas gets the business market due to the frequent flyer program,qf club etc.no points means business people wont fly Ozjet.
They are flying clapped out,old 737s, which cannot be efficient.Thats another problem.
No offence to those going there,but I think they will close shortly after they open if they open at all.And the man behind it is famous for the misfortunes of employees of a charter airline in the UK.Its done before it starts.