Virgin Australia - Wannabes & Recruitment
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For those who do not know it is bussiness as usual. Va have told Pilots that they are working to start date mid JAN; subject to those 
machinests at Boeing getting of their fat and doing some work; and in fact have accelerated some pilots training. Make no misstake VA will fly and all those pilots who put the Company down like a broken record can go themselves. If you really want the job never give up and it will work out.
machinests at Boeing getting of their fat and doing some work; and in fact have accelerated some pilots training. Make no misstake VA will fly and all those pilots who put the Company down like a broken record can go themselves. If you really want the job never give up and it will work out.
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inandout, glad I don't have to work with a twisted princess like you and feel sorry for those that do on top of whatever else VA do. Are you sure customer service is for you? After all those whinging passengers and lazy fat pilots along the useless groundcrew who don't know from clay and the CSM who is such a will really make you want stick a up their then suck your while you all the while inserting your fist into his
whinging passengers and lazy fat pilots along the useless groundcrew who don't know from clay and the CSM who is such a will really make you want stick a up their then suck your while you all the while inserting your fist into his
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Geez inandout, do you know anything about why the Boeing workers are on strike?
Perhaps they, like the potential and new V Aus employees, are trying for better conditions of employment.
Or is it only the V Aus crew who are allowed to do that?
Perhaps they, like the potential and new V Aus employees, are trying for better conditions of employment.
Or is it only the V Aus crew who are allowed to do that?
Join Date: Sep 2008
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Good luck to everyone who's starting GS tomorrow!
I've been following some of you on here for ages, so I'm really glad that this day has finally come for you!
I've been following some of you on here for ages, so I'm really glad that this day has finally come for you!
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Collective Agreement Vote
Hi guys,
For those of you starting GS tomorrow good luck and congrats!
Unfortunately, you are going to be asked to view and subsequently vote on a collective agreement (really just an AWA in disguise) within a very short space of time - not the easiest thing to consider when you are beginning a new job!
PLEASE discuss this thoroughly with the existing groups in the classrooms next to you who have already looked at the document and discussed the pros and cons to it.
You are being asked to sign an agreement that locks you in for FIVE years WITHOUT any guaranteed salary increase (not even a consideration for inflation). It also denies you the right to take any industrial action (strike) throughout this time if you are not happy with the conditions or the lack of pay increases.
You could also work OVER 1900 hours annually - crazy and totally unheard of in the airline industry. Virgin Atlantic cabin crew work a MAXIMUM of 900 hours annually as a comparison.
You guys are setting the benchmark for the future of ALL cabin crew at V Australia - please consider this very carefully. V Australia will be a great airline - how disappointing to begin it with unhappy and disengaged crew.
The pilots are also on the same agreement - very unfair to both the pilot and cabin crew groups alike.
Be careful that your concerns are not 'glossed over' by the people who present this latest document to you!
VOTE NO - the company needs to realise that NEGOTIATION is the way to set an agreement with your employees, not DICTATING terms and conditions!
Good luck guys!
For those of you starting GS tomorrow good luck and congrats!
Unfortunately, you are going to be asked to view and subsequently vote on a collective agreement (really just an AWA in disguise) within a very short space of time - not the easiest thing to consider when you are beginning a new job!
PLEASE discuss this thoroughly with the existing groups in the classrooms next to you who have already looked at the document and discussed the pros and cons to it.
You are being asked to sign an agreement that locks you in for FIVE years WITHOUT any guaranteed salary increase (not even a consideration for inflation). It also denies you the right to take any industrial action (strike) throughout this time if you are not happy with the conditions or the lack of pay increases.
You could also work OVER 1900 hours annually - crazy and totally unheard of in the airline industry. Virgin Atlantic cabin crew work a MAXIMUM of 900 hours annually as a comparison.
You guys are setting the benchmark for the future of ALL cabin crew at V Australia - please consider this very carefully. V Australia will be a great airline - how disappointing to begin it with unhappy and disengaged crew.
The pilots are also on the same agreement - very unfair to both the pilot and cabin crew groups alike.
Be careful that your concerns are not 'glossed over' by the people who present this latest document to you!
VOTE NO - the company needs to realise that NEGOTIATION is the way to set an agreement with your employees, not DICTATING terms and conditions!
Good luck guys!
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As much as I don't agree with that contract I have to caution against using
V Atlantic as a comparison.
It's true V Atlantic only work a max 900 hours per year but that's because regs in the UK don't allow it. Not because V Atlantic are benificent beings. V Atlantic crew also get a base of approx $23,000 AUD owing to these very low hours. Basically they are paid a part-time wage because the job is pretty much part-time hours. So it's not a good comparison and I wouldn't want to see
V Australia go down a similar route of offering a wage you can barely live on.
V Atlantic as a comparison.
It's true V Atlantic only work a max 900 hours per year but that's because regs in the UK don't allow it. Not because V Atlantic are benificent beings. V Atlantic crew also get a base of approx $23,000 AUD owing to these very low hours. Basically they are paid a part-time wage because the job is pretty much part-time hours. So it's not a good comparison and I wouldn't want to see
V Australia go down a similar route of offering a wage you can barely live on.
I will vote NO. How on earth are they going to sell this as a positive? Surely there is something in this arrangement to 'tease' people?
I also note in our employment contracts that is does not state anything in regards to redudancy. Do we get it paid? No mention of it at all.
I also note in our employment contracts that is does not state anything in regards to redudancy. Do we get it paid? No mention of it at all.
Join Date: Sep 2008
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The following is the latest copy of the agreement, which is due to be voted on. This has been emailed today to all current crew, and will be voted on shortly. Crew joining VA after the 19th will not be eligible to vote on this agreement, so for those of you on the 20OCT course, now is your only chance to express your opinion!
V_Australia_Agreement_2008_-_Final.pdf
FAQs[1].pdf
Please note these are produced by the company, so may be biased.
V_Australia_Agreement_2008_-_Final.pdf
FAQs[1].pdf
Please note these are produced by the company, so may be biased.
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Still a NO from me...
I am sorry but even with the change to the length of the agreement, just over 3.5 years is too long WITHOUT a guaranteed salary increase - I mean, what airline under this type of agreement has this clause (or lack thereof)??
And as for the 38 hr/wk (over 1900 hrs/year!) rule - come on people, they really must think we are stupid! NO other long haul airline has these work rules in place!
Let's vote NO as a joint pilot and cabin crew body and negotiate fairer terms.
And as for the 38 hr/wk (over 1900 hrs/year!) rule - come on people, they really must think we are stupid! NO other long haul airline has these work rules in place!
Let's vote NO as a joint pilot and cabin crew body and negotiate fairer terms.
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I went to the vrd in syd 7th oct it was a great day
heaps easier than qantas and less formal.
v sounds so unreal
not sure how i went time will tell
but I think they will be great the guys at the interview were all nice
had fun so dont worry all relaxed and they are nice too
heaps easier than qantas and less formal.
v sounds so unreal
not sure how i went time will tell
but I think they will be great the guys at the interview were all nice
had fun so dont worry all relaxed and they are nice too
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Just packed all of my stuff up and put it on the truck for Sydney, Really excited for the starting date 20th OCT!! yee haa!!!
bit worried about the agreement going to be offered in the first few days but oh well..
got my US Visa and did my uniform fitting so its all happening!!
hows GS going from anyone thats in it???
bit worried about the agreement going to be offered in the first few days but oh well..
got my US Visa and did my uniform fitting so its all happening!!
hows GS going from anyone thats in it???