Virgin Australia - Wannabes & Recruitment
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congrats
wow thats exciting.
I am still waiting for my second invitation to attend a VRD day as I was not able to attend my first one.
Got a phone call before the close date, and had a really good convo with the recruiter, so still waiting, waiting waiting.
Len
I am still waiting for my second invitation to attend a VRD day as I was not able to attend my first one.
Got a phone call before the close date, and had a really good convo with the recruiter, so still waiting, waiting waiting.
Len
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I would call them to chase this up in regards to the VRD as they have so much going on I am sure they have just overlooked this.
yes I was relieved! The wait is over finally!
yes I was relieved! The wait is over finally!
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Congrats
Iwannaflyla - congrats thats so excellent! The waiting has paid off!! I hope the rest of us hears this week!!! Up up ans away go you good thing all the best for 6th Oct!!
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hey everyone
i had my interview in april for V and have did my medical 3 weeks ago and have not heard anything since. i know of other people that went also around the same time and have heard back from them i am starting to worry about it and was i thinking of calling and asking. i was wondering if anyone knows the number to call as i can't find the number i was given?
thanks
i had my interview in april for V and have did my medical 3 weeks ago and have not heard anything since. i know of other people that went also around the same time and have heard back from them i am starting to worry about it and was i thinking of calling and asking. i was wondering if anyone knows the number to call as i can't find the number i was given?
thanks
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Congratulations to everyone that has been offered their dream job! I am really happy for you all! However, I won’t be joining you, I turned the offer down, simply because of the conditions.
I know you will all be really excited and I don’t want to burst your bubble, I’m just writing this as some 'food for thought' to get you all thinking about what you are signing;
After already flying for another airline I was amazed at some of the things that were included (and not included) in the very 'grey' contract;
1. If needed you can operate for virgin blue or pacific blue at V Australia's discretion. Think about this; operate virgin blue flights on your contract with no overtime, no BOC allowance, no minimum rest and no maximum flying hours! You will be at their mercy and there is nothing you can do about it! You signed the contract!
2. "V Australia can elect to provide you with meals in lieu of this allowance" (subsistence allowance). Breakfast, lunch and dinner vouchers for the hotel restaurant is a major possibility, I cannot take this risk on a base salary of 37500!
3. There is no minimum rest! This is just so wrong in any flying job! Especially if you end up flying for virgin blue!
4. There is no limit to your daily/duty flying hours. It even says that your duty will be extended whenever needed. Eg. Delays, mechanical problems etc. In other words, you will just keep going (with no overtime payment) until the job is done!
I hope this gives you all something to think about, you are all old enough to make up your own minds, and for some, I know this job is a once in lifetime chance! (when I started it was for me too) I know you will all enjoy it, just be careful and don’t let them screw you!
I know you will all be really excited and I don’t want to burst your bubble, I’m just writing this as some 'food for thought' to get you all thinking about what you are signing;
After already flying for another airline I was amazed at some of the things that were included (and not included) in the very 'grey' contract;
1. If needed you can operate for virgin blue or pacific blue at V Australia's discretion. Think about this; operate virgin blue flights on your contract with no overtime, no BOC allowance, no minimum rest and no maximum flying hours! You will be at their mercy and there is nothing you can do about it! You signed the contract!
2. "V Australia can elect to provide you with meals in lieu of this allowance" (subsistence allowance). Breakfast, lunch and dinner vouchers for the hotel restaurant is a major possibility, I cannot take this risk on a base salary of 37500!
3. There is no minimum rest! This is just so wrong in any flying job! Especially if you end up flying for virgin blue!
4. There is no limit to your daily/duty flying hours. It even says that your duty will be extended whenever needed. Eg. Delays, mechanical problems etc. In other words, you will just keep going (with no overtime payment) until the job is done!
I hope this gives you all something to think about, you are all old enough to make up your own minds, and for some, I know this job is a once in lifetime chance! (when I started it was for me too) I know you will all enjoy it, just be careful and don’t let them screw you!
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You have raised some good points trolly dolly, however surely there is an aviation governing body which would stipulate guidelines for things such as minimum rest etc?? I have flown previously and know that there is such a thing overseas. I would imagine that any airline within Australia would have to adhere to the same requirements for passenger and crew safety. Over tired crew, wouldn't be of much use in any kind of an emergency. Aside from the FAAA, does anyone know of where else you can find information on this kind of thing. Also will the contracts being offered by V be negotiable??
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Iwannaflyla
Thanks for that, I had my medical Friday week so I,ve not been waiting too long so far, just feels like an eternity.
Is is really only $37.5K a year and maybe no $$$ for allowances, that is not much money, hmmm, really want the job but ??????
C or F, thanks for the Stats update, hope we hear this week!
Is is really only $37.5K a year and maybe no $$$ for allowances, that is not much money, hmmm, really want the job but ??????
C or F, thanks for the Stats update, hope we hear this week!
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Under CAO 20.11 (Australian regulations) you are required to carry out training both pratical and theory on the emergency equipment and procedures on each aircraft type for each airline you work for. This training is completed when you first join and then every 12 months. Therefore V Australia cannot make you crew a VB or PAC Blue flight, as you are employed by V Australia and their AOC is for the B777 only and you are only trained and checked under CAO 20.11 on that type only. In order for you to operate on the B737 or E-JET with VB or PAC Blue you would need initial training on those types and then a check on each type every 12 months. The same goes with VB and PAC Blue, the cabin crew from each airline cannot crew the other airlines aircraft.
You will find that V Australia will operate under a fatigue system for duty times. Therefore depending on what time of the day and the length of the sector you do will determine the maximum duty time. BOC flying lowers the length of any duty that you can be rostered for or extend.
Think about it, international flights have a 2 hour sign on and 1/2 to 1 hour (to clear customs) after arrival, so if the flight time is 15 hours (on a good day) from LAX to SYD you duty time from would 17.5 to 18 hours. Then you would need another 30 minute to get from the international to domestic terminal so you are up to 18 to 18.5 hours of duty before you get on the VB aircraft. The minimum VB return flight from SYD would be CBR, this flight chock to chock is 90 mins (at best). So the min duty you could do would be 19.5 to 20 hours and 3 sectors (including 1 BOC), no fatigue system would allow this.
You will find that V Australia will operate under a fatigue system for duty times. Therefore depending on what time of the day and the length of the sector you do will determine the maximum duty time. BOC flying lowers the length of any duty that you can be rostered for or extend.
Think about it, international flights have a 2 hour sign on and 1/2 to 1 hour (to clear customs) after arrival, so if the flight time is 15 hours (on a good day) from LAX to SYD you duty time from would 17.5 to 18 hours. Then you would need another 30 minute to get from the international to domestic terminal so you are up to 18 to 18.5 hours of duty before you get on the VB aircraft. The minimum VB return flight from SYD would be CBR, this flight chock to chock is 90 mins (at best). So the min duty you could do would be 19.5 to 20 hours and 3 sectors (including 1 BOC), no fatigue system would allow this.
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Hi everyone,
im so glad i found this forum! I have also been in the waiting game for V Australia, with my VRD being on the 1st of July... I have just completed my medical last friday.
I really want this job although i have some concerns about the pay conditions and contract etc that people have posted. I havent received any further info on these yet, although i also thought the pay would have been better. I would be taking a pay cut in order to do what i love so much!!
Does anyone know if they pay anything to do the training? and for the people that did get an offer, was the contract emailed to you so you could have some thinking time before giving an answer?
Thanks &
Good Luck everyone!
im so glad i found this forum! I have also been in the waiting game for V Australia, with my VRD being on the 1st of July... I have just completed my medical last friday.
I really want this job although i have some concerns about the pay conditions and contract etc that people have posted. I havent received any further info on these yet, although i also thought the pay would have been better. I would be taking a pay cut in order to do what i love so much!!
Does anyone know if they pay anything to do the training? and for the people that did get an offer, was the contract emailed to you so you could have some thinking time before giving an answer?
Thanks &
Good Luck everyone!