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Originally Posted by Winged Lion (Post 11134013)

Just received an email that the application is still under review. They will continue with the hiring process even going in to next year (2022). Good luck all.

They already increased the number of pilot vacancies once to 110 (if I recall correctly) and given how undercrewed and busy we are, I wouldn’t be surprised if it extends again.

Best of luck to all who apply.

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Originally Posted by Winged Lion (Post 11134013)

Just received an email that the application is still under review. They will continue with the hiring process even going in to next year (2022). Good luck all.

Yeah received the same, good that they're at least letting us know we're not (yet) on the PFO pile

Globally Challenged, you're right. 110 (and it may go higher depending if deliveries come forward). 20 cabin crew (and maybe more).

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Originally Posted by pifpafpouf (Post 11133416)

I won’t disclose what makes the core of the selection, to preserve the hard work they have put in designing it, and I didn’t pass through day 1, but here is the summary of day 1 :

- Covid test at entrance unless you have already the results of your international arrival (only about 10-15min)
- gathering in the main lobby until everyone has arrived

-15-20 min welcome presentation with the recruitment staff (Kura & Netjets), you’re expected to give a 30 sec- 1min self presentation at start). Nothing really interesting, they should work on that, all info you’ll be provided with are public and all of you will know already through self preparation.

- you’ll be split into 2 groups, one group will go for group exercise while the others go for individual interview in front of 2 members of recruitment team.

Questions related to your own experience (tailored so to say), seems to me they have been through the zoom interview before. It’s going to be the same type of questions, focusing on your motivations, experience and expectations. No competency based examples to provide (at least for me). Document check and validation. Expect 1h to 1h15.

You’ll be then sent back to lobby. Lot of people around and most probably some lurkers, but they make themselves blended in the general operations of a training center.
A NJE captain joined us for about 30 mins providing a lot more details and experience.

- Group exercise : I won’t give the exercises out, just provide you the guidelines they will also give you, and my own assessment of it.

You will have 4 exercises of 10 min each, with 5 min gap to present the solution and get the scenario for the next exercise.
each one of you will be the “captain” for one scenario, with the others being “crew-members”.
One member of the interview panel will play the role of the customer/owner, another one is available (only once per scenario) playing ATC or OPS member.

key points :
- Don’t assume the ATC/OPS to provide assistance out of their “real life” competency, if you ask the wrong question you will get a “I don’t know captain” 😁
- Don’t assume the owner/client to be of any help, if you ask a question like you would to a regular “pax”, you’ll probably end up with an irritated/unhelpful/pressuring answer 😁

Personal feedback :

- Be decisive : as the captain, you’re on your own, don’t let the other guys drag you out of the primary target : provide a solution , it’s only 10 mins, it goes fast. If someone goes extensively on something you think is pointless, interrupt them, in a nice way, but be firm, you have to provide a solution, not bs chit-chat.

- Really think outside the box, it’s corporate, not airline. Unless the safety is compromised, your mindset should be that “yes, it’s possible”, assess if you can give the green light or need escalation to ops, assess if the costs of tailoring the solution are realistic, then make it happen.

- Don’t go to the client unless you already have a solution you need his approval for, or really need the input to make a decision.
- you can communicate with the client multiple times, but I wouldn’t go more than twice at most ( input needed/ call to ops-ATC/ confirmed solution).

Like I mentioned, I didn’t make it through day 1, they will give a you a feedback on why, which is rare enough to be mentioned.

edit: to avoid replying to all the messages I received individually, I was not 100% enthusiastic about the position, and made it clear that I had other options and wanted to be sure it was the right job for me, before committing for the role (if you really really want the job, be 110% enthusiastic, I guess 😉 ).

side : I don’t know if it’s going to happen to all groups, but we were told early day 1 that there would be only 6 simulator slots avail on day 2 (out of 8 candidates), adds some steam right 😂

good luck

An edit : Many of us have been unemployed or not flying for quite some time and I won’t question individuals habits while not using privileges and restrictions related to a class 1 medical and licence. I do know that alcohol usage is widespread in the industry thus the feedback I will provide :
Just want to make you aware that the drug&alcohol check being processed during day 2 is hair follicle based (the most expensive and accurate testing available) and WILL show a drug usage and/or alcohol abuse that can have happened over the last months. I would suspect an AOC holder has to report to the authority in case of a positive result, regardless of your obvious blacklisting with the company.

If you question yourself, I can only recommend going through a testing by the same method (expect anywhere in excess of 250$ for these) before showing up.

Pifpafpouf, sorry to hear that you did not go all the way. Although it may be that it was a good thing for you in don’t feel 100% committed to NJ. Thank you very much for sharing your experience!

Would be very interesting to hear about the second day from someone who has been through it.

cheers!

Hi redsnail, thx for your information.
What A/C´s are the unattended fleet?
Do the pilots on the unattended fleet serve food and drinks to the pax during the flight?

Phenom 300, Citation XLS and Citation Latitude are unattended fleets. Challenger 350, Falcon 2000EX EASy and the Globals are attended fleets. The Challengers 650 (due to arrive in 2022) will also have cabin crew.

On unattended fleets, pilots usually explain to the passengers where they can find their food and what has been loaded for them. On some occasions they will also help serving food, it all depends on the circumstances.

EatMyShorts! Thanks!

Has anyone didn't receive any email/update since 8th October?

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Originally Posted by Sky95 (Post 11135952)

Has anyone didn't receive any email/update since 8th October?

I received an update on the 29th stating my application is still under review and recruitment will be ongoing into the new year as well

Can someone from netjets help me with a question? I saw that i can choose Basel as a gateway, but was told that it has to be the swiss side, now my question is: can you live in france and still have basel as gateway or do you have to live in switzerland? If we have to live in switzerland does that mean we have to pay the taxes there as well?! Many thanks for your help!!!

EDIT: see my reply to aless85.

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Originally Posted by EatMyShorts! (Post 11136653)

The tax and social security has to be paid based on where your main gateway is. For Basel that would be Switzerland. You also need to have a residence address in that country.

Hi , just one doubt regarding this.

Mainland EU gateways except Portugal have a UK contract, so on your payslip you would pay XX% of NI and 0% of PAYE or some XX% of PAYE.??

I understand tax is based on your country of fiscal residence but paying NI and SS in 2 countries?

Sorry im a bit confused if you can elaborate a bit more in detail.

Thank you :)

I am sorry, I miswrote!

for those not on a PT contract and those who are not living in the UK, tax is paid in Portugal at a certain percentage
in most EU countries employees only pay national social security fees and a small amount of additional national tax on top of the PT-tax
in some EU countries, employees only pay national social security fees and no further tax

Regarding the question by joeporto: you definitely pay your social security in the country where your gateway is defined. Additional tax depends on the country you are based in. Basel and Geneva are special cases, as they are bi-national airports. Bottom line: you cannot be based in France, so you'll need to have an address in Switzerland to use Basel or Geneva. Therefore you also pay your social security in Switzerland.

Hey EMS,

When on the subject of social security contributions...does NJE have in countries where the gateways are contract with some local payroll companies who perform payment towards the social security contributions or is it the responsibility of the employee?

Thx...

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Originally Posted by joeporto (Post 11136642)

Unless things have changed joeporto, you can live in France, Germany or Switzerland when having Basel as your gateway... no need to have a Swiss address...

You'll pay your social security contributions in Switzerland and tax in Portugal (+ a possible delta of tax in the country you live in, depending on the rules of that country, your partner's earnings in that country... this can get quite complex on the tax' sides of thing, depending on your status).

Anyone else able to share more info on the day 1 and 2 assessments?

I would strongly suggest getting a tax adviser in your country who is familiar with said issues. I am sure everybody can afford one on a NJE salary.

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Originally Posted by wondering (Post 11137214)

I would strongly suggest getting a tax adviser in your country who is familiar with said issues. I am sure everybody can afford one on a NJE salary.

Never needed one. As written: you will definitely pay social security in the country of your gateway. In 99% of cases that will also be the place that you are living at, but in some places your gateway is in a different country than your place of living.
Income tax, on the other hand, is another story, some countries accept the PT-tax and do not ask for further "donations", in others you'll have to pay on top of it (Scandinavia, Spain etc.). We do have colleagues from lots of countries and once you get hired you should be able to connect with them and find out. Of course, if you are keen to find out before getting hired, go and ask an international tax adviser! Let me be clear: when you come to Netjets, you should do so for the lifestyle, not for the money. You can make MUCH more money in other places, primarily in "private gigs", but without the same degree of job security.

Hello, does anyone know if newly employed pilots can select their gateway and, therefore residence, in mainland Europe if they are a British passport holder only? thanks

Good question, you can do temporary gateway changes. Just watch the 90/180 day thing... As for the legalities of permanently moving to Europe on a British passport it's a different thing as you've probably worked out. The UK gov.uk site only talked about those who had moved before Jan 01, 2021.