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MostAnnoying 28th Sep 2021 22:41


Originally Posted by Winged Lion (Post 11118359)
Is that because you counted 14 days from the closing day of application?

The "You can expect to hear the outcome of the selection process within 10-14 days" part is only after stage 3 I believe, which is going to start at 24th of October.

i have “you will hear no later than October 8th”

TheFatViking 29th Sep 2021 05:13


Originally Posted by Winged Lion (Post 11118359)
Is that because you counted 14 days from the closing day of application?

The "You can expect to hear the outcome of the selection process within 10-14 days" part is only after stage 3 I believe, which is going to start at 24th of October.

it says in the email you received about the online assessment.

jmvdb22 29th Sep 2021 13:31


Originally Posted by TheFatViking (Post 11118490)
it says in the email you received about the online assessment.

I wonder if when they set up that autoreply they expected 1100+ applicants 😂

Moonwalker 29th Sep 2021 14:25


Originally Posted by happyjack (Post 11116577)
"Sorry I wasn't clear with what I meant. I meant that an aircraft with a weight of around 50 tons would qualify you for more options than a phenom/XLS type of weight. Not meaning a Global/Challenger rating would give you any jobs itself... With pic time on a Global you could even qualify as DEC for many low cost ops in the weight class of a Boeing/Airbus (when market permits). That's difficult with a XLS rating..."


Sorry but that is totally wrong and a mistake many make.

I was flying a GV for many years and it qualified me for no other position bar another GV later when it came down to it. No one cares what you have been doing, only what current type you have for the job.

No-one wants to spend on training so whatever job is going you need a current rating with very recent hours to get a look in.

Hours and experience on heavy long range exec jets mean nothing beyond a type job you are applying for.

And just so you know... all the small/mid jet jobs are in Europe. The Long range jet jobs are in China and beyond.


Not it's not wrong. Depends also where you live. I mainly talk about European based pilots and also depends a bit on your background. Unlikely they would hire someone with just owners experience into DEC on a 737/A320. But if you have a bit of commuter airline background, 1000 hrs PIC Gulfstream or Global from a more structured environment with good SOP then I know some that have joined directly into the left hand seat at Easy, Jet2, Wizz, Ryan etc. Yes in some places you have to pay for the type rating, but it does put you straight into the LHS. That was my main point. Of course unlikely to happen in the next years or so but time will come back.

HelmutKohl 29th Sep 2021 15:11


Originally Posted by Boomless (Post 11118247)
Hi GoatriderClassic,

I am not sure of this but, i have the idea that PBN license endorsement is related to the type where you had the proficiency check that included RNP Approaches exercises.
Once you change type, you loose the privilege to operate RNP Approaches, CAA will not endorse PBN on your new type rating license, unless you practice RNP APP again during the new type rating.
Did you fly a different type on previous company? If its the same type, did you practice RNP during the OCC simulators for the new company?
Again, this is just my guess, my advice is to check with your training dep or CAA.
Nevertheless, i understood according to the Kura website, its a "desirable" requirement and a new type rating in NJE or elsewhere, they can easily add some RNP APP on your simulators profiles and tick it in the box, i wouldn't worry to much about it.

The way I understand it is that the PBN endorsement is related to the IR validity, and therefore should not either differ between types neither require any sort of "update" to remain current besides what is required PC wise to keep the IR current.
Also at least my CAA does not issue any specific certificate or endorsement, they just keep a form on file from the examiner. So I don´t have any good "proof", besides the fact that a valid IR issued after 25 August 2020 includes a completion of PBN certification, otherwise the IR will not be issued.
So if holding a valid IR that in itself should solve the problem.

I do however have a issued certificate for completion of training in RNP-AR approaches, which is necessary for conducting these. However that might not be valid unless completed in the company with the RNP-AR approval, as they are AOC based. I don´t know how that works really..

Long story short: I did not submit anything besides my valid IR/Rating in the field for PBN, and if Kura ask me about it I will provide the answer above.
However, I assume I could email my CAA and ask them for a copy of the certification they probably have on file, and then send them that one. :)

FlightDetent 30th Sep 2021 05:05

FWIW the rating entries on my licence show: AC_TYPE/IR/LVP/PBN. Single line, identical validity.

EASA, issued in central EU before 25 August 2020. Haven't done the renewals yet.


PontiusPilotus 30th Sep 2021 07:59

Today an email got into my inbox regarding the next phase (2) of selections which is an online assessment

Fingers crossed for all applicants and may the results be prosperous.

Boomless 30th Sep 2021 08:24


Originally Posted by PontiusPilotus (Post 11119061)
Today an email got into my inbox regarding the next phase (2) of selections which is an online assessment

Fingers crossed for all applicants and may the results be prosperous.


Hi PontiusPilotus,

The stage 1 is Application and Online assessment, stage 2 Online interview and Documents verification... maybe is Online interview for you at this stage?
Still nothing here for me.

MostAnnoying 30th Sep 2021 09:36


Originally Posted by PontiusPilotus (Post 11119061)
Today an email got into my inbox regarding the next phase (2) of selections which is an online assessment

Fingers crossed for all applicants and may the results be prosperous.

i got that directly after applying. Is it the one regarding the 5-6 questions ?

PontiusPilotus 30th Sep 2021 10:59

As far as I know it is an online assessment to be completed within 48hours with 4 different modules.

nunofrednunes 30th Sep 2021 14:58

Thanks to all the Netjets pilots who kept sharing valuable insights.


Originally Posted by redsnail (Post 11111691)
I love the crews I work with, the overnights can be amazing, the job variety and the interactions with our owners is something I really enjoy, flying into Samedan on a clear winter's day is incredible.
My husband flies an Airbus. He'd swap with me, I wouldn't swap with him.

Mind if I ask what a "typical" overnight is at Netjets?

With 6 working days (maybe 2 with airline time); duty time being maximized for the conditions... is it arrive in the afternoon and leave early next morning?
Does it ever reach a situation where you arrive late at night in one day, spend the next at that location and leave very early on the third day (something we see at airlines that have a flight returning to base as early as possible from a network location).

I know it sounds nitpicking but that rest day (not day off) at a location can give a very "balanced" rhythm to a work month.

pifpafpouf 30th Sep 2021 17:51

As a Reply to 2 preceding questions, phase 2 is very similar to Easyjet taleo screening : work related questions (20x5) , the beacon exercise, multitasking (equation + double occurrence + arrow direction (it’s runway positioning in EZY) and the « tunnel » to go through, nothing out of the ordinary, I should say.

awaiting reply from recruitment team now

redsnail 30th Sep 2021 19:28


"typical" overnight is at Netjets?
Ola Nuno,
As with anything with NetJets, "it depends". There are FTL that govern how much rest you're owed. In summer, it's not unusual to have minimum rest, eg arrive at the hotel at 6pm and have to leave 11-ish hours later. Usually if you've been worked hard for the first 3 days, day 4 is tame so they can max you on days 5 & 6.
Often the main hubs have minimum or not a lot of time to explore versus the "out of the way" places where you may have a chance to take a breather and explore.

Occasionally you'll get the classic absolute min rest or even reduced rest. What I am trying to say is that there is no "typical".

Boomless 1st Oct 2021 14:33

I am wondering if, for those who haven´t received yet the email to complete the online assessment by now, if it means "game over" or will they still keep sending to other candidates in the next few days...?

TheFatViking 1st Oct 2021 15:54

Thanks to all the NJE employees who have been shedding the light upon the day to day at the company, and if the listed negatives are the worst parts of NJE then I must say I really hope to become a part of the company. I'd happily complain about airline-ing around Europe on day 1 and 6!

Does Netjets allow any moonlighting for a non-competing operation? Say that you have your own company and work as a consultant for an R&D-company? Might be a very strange and niche question but if someone knows if it's allowed then it would be another huge plus for me. Thanks again and have a great weekend.

Globally Challenged 1st Oct 2021 17:49


Originally Posted by TheFatViking (Post 11119736)
Thanks to all the NJE employees who have been shedding the light upon the day to day at the company, and if the listed negatives are the worst parts of NJE then I must say I really hope to become a part of the company. I'd happily complain about airline-ing around Europe on day 1 and 6!

Does Netjets allow any moonlighting for a non-competing operation? Say that you have your own company and work as a consultant for an R&D-company? Might be a very strange and niche question but if someone knows if it's allowed then it would be another huge plus for me. Thanks again and have a great weekend.

You have to have express written permission for this sort of thing and it needs to comply with FTLs etc - no idea how many of us do it as I’m no fan of paperwork. Though this would be for flying.

if it’s office style work then I imagine this is less problematic.

TheFatViking 1st Oct 2021 18:27


Originally Posted by Globally Challenged (Post 11119797)
You have to have express written permission for this sort of thing and it needs to comply with FTLs etc - no idea how many of us do it as I’m no fan of paperwork. Though this would be for flying.

if it’s office style work then I imagine this is less problematic.

Thank you for the answer, that's fantastic. It is only office type work, so that seems like a benefit again. Great!

Tailstrik 2nd Oct 2021 07:16

Kura
 
Did Kura finish with the invitations for the second stage or it is still going on during next week?

Winged Lion 2nd Oct 2021 12:28


Originally Posted by TheFatViking (Post 11118490)
it says in the email you received about the online assessment.

You are absolutely right, I totally forgot about that. Well, we’re about to enter last week then..

Sky95 2nd Oct 2021 19:43


Originally Posted by pifpafpouf (Post 11119324)
As a Reply to 2 preceding questions, phase 2 is very similar to Easyjet taleo screening : work related questions (20x5) , the beacon exercise, multitasking (equation + double occurrence + arrow direction (it’s runway positioning in EZY) and the « tunnel » to go through, nothing out of the ordinary, I should say.

awaiting reply from recruitment team now

What's the beacon exercise?


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