In summer you will usually be on an early airline on day 1 and most likely you will then operate between 1 and 3 flights that day. Nightstop with minimum rest (11 hours or length of previous duty period, if longer than 11 hours), 3 to 4 legs, next hotel, next min rest of 11 hours or longer etc.. You will probably fly 15 to 20 legs during a tour. If they keep you really busy, you might end up with 55 hours of duty on day 5 and they'll send you home already. If you were unlucky and had a slower day before, you'll finish on day 6 and if they squeeze in just one flight before going home. When they are short on crew, like this year, they might ask you to agree to extend your duty (NOT flight duty!) to 65 hours for the week, but they can only use duty in excess of 60 hours to position you home. And you get extra money for it.

The summer is usually busy and you will regularly hit 58 to 60 hours of weekly duty. Winters are slower and good to take a breath and actually enjoy some time off or on STBY in a hotel to do other things than sleep-eat-fly-eat-sleep.

Thank you EatMyShorts! :)

Thank you all for the information, what is the approximate amount covered by the bond, presumably somewhere in the 10-20k Eur range?

Hello guys,
I'm wondering if anyone flew into uk as a crew on an airline flight.
If yes please pm me.

Thanks

We do this regularly and you shouldn’t expect the checkin / gate staff to know any exemptions that apply. We are advised to travel in uniform and the company provided a couple of letters (I only used the letter once).

What you need though is your crew badge and PLF (completed the the crew exemption).

You will need a pre-departure test up to 72 hours old but don’t need to book any day 2/5 etc

Thanks for the reply!

Around the 20k

Not sure if it's different for Netjets crew, but I'm working in the UK at an airline at the moment and for us there is no pre-departure test needed, but we do need to do the LFD test (I believe on day 2 and 5), which you can get for free delivered via the gov.uk website.

The plf might be required officially, but I've not been asked to show it in about the last 1,5 year now, so I'm not sure as the rules change quite often.

Thanks for your help!

Yes if we are operating crew then that’s different - but about 30-40% of the time or so I airline home and then we are not in a locked compartment away from the great unwashed (the exact terminalogy in the rules is a little different :}) then we need the pre-departure test

Hello,


I am wondering can anyone advise either here or in PM about the tax situation for pilot's in NetJets? Do you pay a flat rate in Portugal then top up in your own country or how does it work. Thank you.

Hi if you scroll the 22 pages before your post you can find plenty of information about it

Just had a closer look and most info is there. Thanks.

I joined NJE in 2004 and had to leave in January 2013. Back in 2004 management was all about convincing the new hires to see NJE as the company they wanted to retire from after a long and enjoyable career. Unfortunately things turned out rather differently for a lot of us who actually wanted to do just that. Overselling of the 25 hours cards and thus disrupting a healthy balance between fractional ownership and the number of cards caused the company to own too many aircraft and when the 2008 crisis hit, there was an excess of around 300 pilots. Fortunately nobody had to be let go thanks to the willingness of the crew to accept one of the options offered. At the end of 2012 128 captains based, or “ gatewayed “, in France and Belgium were fired after new European legislation was introduced with regards to social security contributions for employers even though a 10-year transition period was allowed for people already employed. Although I thoroughly enjoyed my time at NJE, from a career point of view, I should probably never have left the cargo airline where I started my career. Bottom line for me, with NJE hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

I do have one more question. If you live within 1 hour of a Gateway are you guarantee'd to get that gateway for example if you tell them EGCC do you get that gateway or is it subject to availability/seniority? Thanks

You will get it, but you'll need some address that actually is within 60 minutes of travel. And if it just your friend's or brother's place. Obviously, when they put you on STBY, you'll need to be in that area as well.

Thats fine I'm 45 minutes on Google maps.
When you guy's airline home do you do it in uniform or casual clothes?

It depends if you were operating on the last day of your tour (which you probably will be) and whether you can be bothered to change (I don’t).

There is currently a recommendation (not mandated) to position in uniform as it often helps facilitate easier movement through airports - some countries more than others such as France and Switzerland you will get treated with respect and others like the UK you tend to get treated worse 😜

About half the time I end my tour with ground transport within the UK

During COVID-times I always travel in uniform to make the process easier. Off COVID I do it as well, mostly, for the same reason. Less hassle. Except for UK airports, where crew travelling in uniform seem to be put under special scrutiny at security check points. In other countries it is the opposite.

EDIT: ah, too slow, GC already answered it accordingly!

Understood it makes sense in that case. Thank you both.