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Old Boeing Driver 26th May 2019 02:25

Citation V Crashes into Atlantic
 
The Orlando Sentinel reports the pilot was the only person aboard the Cessna Citation V when it crashed. The aircraft left from St. Louis Regional Airport in East Alton, Ill Friday afternoon and crashed into the ocean 300 miles east of Fort Lauderdale in Florida around 6 p.m., an FAA spokeswoman said.

Possibly N832R

https://www.fox10tv.com/news/officia...5aeef6a3f.html

EatMyShorts! 26th May 2019 08:21

More information here: Kathryn's Report: Cessna 560 Citation Encore, N832R: Fatal accident occurred May 24, 2019 in Atlantic Ocean


A Cessna 560 Citation Encore crashed in the Atlantic Ocean Friday afternoon -- away from its designated flight path -- about 310 miles east of Fort Lauderdale, according to the Federal Aviation Administration.

Fort Lauderdale Executive Airport air traffic controllers lost communication with the Cessna 560 Citation Encore and asked the U.S. Air Force to investigate.

The Florida Air National Guard dispatched two F-15 fighter jets from the Homestead Air Reserve. The pilots intercepted the Cessna 560 shortly before it went down.

"Only the pilot was aboard," FAA spokesperson Kathleen Bergen wrote in an 8 p.m. e-mail. "The aircraft was out of communication with air traffic controllers for more than one hour before it crashed."

The Cessna 560 Citation Encore left from St. Louis Regional Airport in East Alton, Illinois, about 2:35 p.m., and it descended rapidly and crashed out in the ocean about 6 p.m., according to Bergen. The F-15 fighter jets did not fire at the Cessna 560 Citation Encore.

According to FlightAware records, the N832R Cessna 560 Citation Encore, owned by Hypo Consulting LLC, made a sudden drop in speed about 5:45 p.m. AirNav RadarBox records show there were erratic changes in speed and altitude.

The plane headed toward the Grand Bahama International Airport in Freeport, Bahamas, and crashed east of the Leonard M. Thompson International Airport in Mash Harbour, Bahamas. The U.S. Coast Guard Air Station Clearwater HC-130 Hercules airplane crew responded to the downed aircraft about 221 miles northeast of the Marsh Harbor, Bahamas.

josephfeatherweight 26th May 2019 22:13


The F-15 fighter jets did not fire at the Cessna 560 Citation Encore.
Well, that’s good.
Does the 560 have any history of pressurisation abnormalities?

what next 27th May 2019 09:46


Originally Posted by josephfeatherweight (Post 10480263)
Does the 560 have any history of pressurisation abnormalities?

That's a bit more complicated because the C560 Encore has a different pressurisation system from the standard Citation V (C560). The Encore has the avionics including the electronic pressurisation controller from the C550 Bravo (and also the C560XL). So if you want to look at a history of faults you need to look at Bravos and Excels rather than the Citation V.
That said, my personal experience in roundabout 3000 hours on type has been one loss of pressurisation due to a mechanical fault of an outflow valve. This can happen in any pressurised aircraft and I guess that same valve or variations thereof is installed in many other types as well. So nothing aircraft specific. The electronics is very reliable and there are fail-safe fallback modes in case of either loss of electrical power or air data. The cabin door has a dual seal with master caution in case the primary seal fails. And of course a master warning wil come on once the cabin altitide exceeds 10000ft. Even a slow decompression should not easily be missed that way.

In Europe this aeroplane is required to have both FDR and CVR installed. I don't know if it is the same with the FAA, but if so, maybe they can retrieve them.

josephfeatherweight 27th May 2019 10:00

Thanks for the explanation, what next - I appreciate it!
:ok:

noneya 1st Jun 2019 12:32

The Citation was just out of maintenance and this was the first flight for the pilot with the company. Most suspect the pilot had a heart attack.

Petropavlovsk 9th Jun 2019 01:19

what next....

Good read but check the serial numbers; I think the reference aircraft was in fact a Citation V 560 (Ultra) and is different from the Citation 560 (Encore).

what next 9th Jun 2019 12:42

Hello!


Originally Posted by Petropavlovsk (Post 10489556)
Good read but check the serial numbers; I think the reference aircraft was in fact a Citation V 560 (Ultra) and is different from the Citation 560 (Encore).

According to the Bluebook the C560 Ultra variant ended in 1999 with serial number 538 and the Encore started in 2000 with serial number 539. The accident aircraft, according to the available online reports (e.g. https://aviation-safety.net/database...?id=20190524-0) was built in 2001 and had serial number 585.

Sepp 9th Jun 2019 18:57


Originally Posted by what next (Post 10489812)
Hello!

According to the Bluebook the C560 Ultra variant ended in 1999 with serial number 538 and the Encore started in 2000 with serial number 539. The accident aircraft, according to the available online reports (e.g. https://aviation-safety.net/database...?id=20190524-0) was built in 2001 and had serial number 585.

I concur. N832R was a 2001 series (-547 to -591) Encore. For those in doubt, check photos via Google - it clearly has the Excel type undercarriage, which the Ultra does not.


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