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Jet Jockey A4 4th Mar 2019 20:46

Great news for the Global 7500...
 
Global 7500 Sets Bizjet Range Record...

Bombardier’s new Global 7500 this week achieved what the manufacturer is billing as the world’s longest flight by a purpose-built business jet. The aircraft logged 8,152 nm after taking off from Singapore at 7:12 a.m. local time on March 4 and landing in Tucson, Arizona, at 8:19 a.m.—setting a speed record for this sector in the process.

The aircraft landed with 4,300 pounds of fuel, falling well within NBAA requirements with nearly 90 additional minutes of flight time possible.

The Global 7500 entered service on December 20, 2018. Designed for long intercontinental flights, it boasts the industry’s largest business jet cabin and a maximum speed of Mach 0.925. This week’s flight exceeded the aircraft’s advertised range of 7,700 nm.

“The Global 7500 was built to break all the records,” commented Bombardier Business Aircraft president David Coleal. “It achieved the industry’s longest mission ever in business aviation after only two months in service. We’ve demonstrated its unequaled long-range and high-speed capabilities, but also its ability to break records confidently with healthy fuel reserves remaining, once again, confirming its unsurpassed performance to customers.”

https://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b...psl5kfmarq.jpg

FLEXJET 5th Mar 2019 19:24

Curious to know about the other details.

My estimates:
16h07 flight with 506 KT average ground speed. Suppose a 20 KT tail wind that could have been achieved with M.84/85 cruise.


dirk85 5th Mar 2019 21:18

How’s that a good news?

I can’t imagine any pilot happy to spend that much time in a pressurized aluminium tube.

arketip 7th Mar 2019 07:27


Originally Posted by dirk85 (Post 10407972)
How’s that a good news?

I can’t imagine any pilot happy to spend that much time in a pressurized aluminium tube.

Well, first he said good news for the aircraft, not the pilot.

Then, fly 15 hours, spend 10 days on a beach, fly back...

And you can always chose a job on a smaller aircraft, Citation or other, and fly 2 hours 6 times a day ;-)

josephfeatherweight 7th Mar 2019 08:25


Originally Posted by Humpmedumpme (Post 10408940)
As long as you can still sleep on the floor next to the toilet instead of the non, lie flat crewrest seat all will be good ;)

My understanding is the crew-rest seat is much improved - proper lie flat!

Birdlover 26th Jun 2022 03:06


Originally Posted by Humpmedumpme (Post 10408940)
As long as you can still sleep on the floor next to the toilet instead of the non, lie flat crewrest seat all will be good ;)

You clearly haven't been near one have you?

Birdlover 20th Mar 2023 14:57

we speak of things we know not of!
 

Originally Posted by Humpmedumpme (Post 11252572)
Not sure how you can jump to that conclusion. But I can infer that your understanding of sarcasm is limited and the fact that the 7500 is a stretch version of the 6000 with its less than crew friendly rest arrangement is well documented, hence the sarcastic comment 🤦🤦🤦

You have also no doubt seen all the possible layouts of the galley in the 7500, in your infinite knowledge, and think that a bench seat with 5 crew on a 16 hour flight is a great idea.

Interesting since I spent 8 years of my life designing the very elements you speak of! you speak with forked tongue and no experience my friend. please forgive me if I call you a FOUR LETTER WORD beginning with C and ending with Tee - and the four letter word is of course, Cute

Central Scrutinizer 20th Mar 2023 17:20

I'm honestly interested in learning how the crew rest facilities of a long-range bizjet are. Could you elaborate? Some photos maybe?

EatMyShorts! 20th Mar 2023 18:39

For starters you can search the internet for photos like "Global 6000 crew rest", you'll find a bunch of photos.

falcon10 21st Mar 2023 02:25

I've know of several operators of the 6000 and 7500 that opted for the standard crew rest seat that fully reclines flat with a bunk above it so 2 crew can lie flat, or 1 can sit while the top lies flat. I've also seen the first 2 club seats on a 7500 sectioned off for crew rest.

When 2 fa's and 3 pilots are onboard a 7500 I would imagine those with only 1 lie flat crew rest seat must also occupy a cabin seat for rest?

I find the VJ config very strange unless galley divan turns into a bed.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ab6f1ed98.jpeg
Standard:
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9598153ea4.jpg

albatross 21st Mar 2023 19:23

https://robbreport.com/motors/aviati...ip-1234681116/

“ Martel said during the press conference that current Global 7500 owners would be able to “retrofit” their aircraft to obtain the same speed and range as the Global 8000. The 7500 would also be phased out when the 8000, which has a base price of $78 million, enters service in 2025.”

I wonder how much the “Retrofit” for the 7500 will cost? I bet it will not be cheap.
Except for the small added range and “Bragging Rights” about the speed, of Mach .94 up from Mach .925 probably not worth the price.
8000
  • Top speed0.94
  • Ultra-high speed cruise0.92
  • High-speed cruise0.90
  • Typical cruise speed0.85

7500
  • Top speed0.925
  • High-speed cruise0.90
  • Typical cruise speed0.85

atakacs 21st Mar 2023 19:37

May 22 ?

More seriously can't seem to find the range at M 0.94 ?

josephfeatherweight 22nd Mar 2023 05:09


Originally Posted by albatross (Post 11406158)
https://robbreport.com/motors/aviati...ip-1234681116/

“ Martel said during the press conference that current Global 7500 owners would be able to “retrofit” their aircraft to obtain the same speed and range as the Global 8000. The 7500 would also be phased out when the 8000, which has a base price of $78 million, enters service in 2025.”

I wonder how much the “Retrofit” for the 7500 will cost? I bet it will not be cheap.
Except for the small added range and “Bragging Rights” about the speed, of Mach .94 up from Mach .925 probably not worth the price.
8000
  • Top speed0.94
  • Ultra-high speed cruise0.92
  • High-speed cruise0.90
  • Typical cruise speed0.85

7500
  • Top speed0.925
  • High-speed cruise0.90
  • Typical cruise speed0.85

You are not wrong about the "bragging rights", however the other factor will be ease of resale.
The typical cruise speed of the 7500 (from the operators I know) is 0.88.
0.85 is (pretty much) equivalent to LRC

Central Scrutinizer 22nd Mar 2023 09:00


Originally Posted by atakacs (Post 11406162)
May 22 ?

More seriously can't seem to find the range at M 0.94 ?

Maybe not M 0.94 but these might give an idea:
  • 7,700 n miles (14,260 km; 8,861 miles) (est) (NBAA reserves, at M0.85, with four crew and eight passengers, Global 7500)
  • 7,900 n miles (14,630 km; 9,091 miles) (est) (NBAA reserves, at M0.85, with four crew and eight passengers, Global 8000)
  • 5,650 n miles (10,463 km; 6,501 miles) (est) (NBAA reserves, at M0.90, with four crew and eight passengers, Global 8000)


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