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VFR airport Commercial operation!
Hi guys,
Is it possible or is it legal to fly to a VFR airport with no fire rescue under commercial operation (I mean an aircraft under AOC)? The aircraft I'm aiming at is a King Air 200 flying to an airport with no IFR approaches. Thought some expert on pprune can answer my question :O |
What does it say on your ops manual as that will be a definitive answer on whether it’s legal in your operation. |
The reason people charter an airplane such as the one you fly -- King Air 200 -- under air taxi, medical evacuations or on demand operations, is to access remote airports with no scheduled airline service, no weather reporting and no IAP. In the US thee are more than 5100 public use airports, most of them have no such amenities.
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Thanks for all answers, the reason I asked is because I was discussing this with a flight instructor at local airport and he said that commercial operation is not allowed if the airport has no fire rescue. He even showed me the following:
CAT.OP.MPA.107 Adequate aerodrome The operator shall consider an aerodrome as adequate if, at the expected time of use, the aerodrome is available and equipped with necessary ancillary services such as air traffic services (ATS), sufficient lighting, communications, weather reporting, navigation aids and emergency services. The strange thing is that there is a helicopter company with AOC doing taxi (point A to B and ) and sightseeing flight at our local airport. (our local airport has no fire and rescue and emergency services). Could the regulation be different for Helicopters (rotorwing) vs fixed wing operation??? thanks |
Check your Part C.
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Originally Posted by dc9-32
(Post 10240338)
Check your Part C.
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Originally Posted by Turkpilot1
(Post 10240357)
Where would I find this?
now IFR or VFR has nothing to do with this. There could be an IFR airport without fireservices (unlikely, but possible) and there can be VFR only airport with fire services. Now helicopters frequently land |
Originally Posted by Turkpilot1
(Post 10240357)
Where would I find this?
now IFR or VFR has nothing to do with this. There could be an IFR airport without fireservices (unlikely, but possible) and there can be VFR only airport with fire services. Now helicopters frequently land on non airport sites that certainly have no fire service, so my guess is, yeah they can. A B 200 is a different matter. |
Us helicopter operators can, and do regularly land at "VFR" landing sites without emergency services - for example collecting pax from football grounds, or cricket clubs. There is a limit to amount of movements we can carry out to any one site in a given time period (the number of which I think is 5 in 7 days), before we need to ensure that emergency services are on hand.
Take as an example any of the horse racing events, Nick and his team at Helipad are usually the people who set up an AG radio station and provide the required category of RFFS for us to operate legal CAT flights in and out of the event. The remainder of the operations, for example ensuring congested area permits in place or FATO large enough for the helicopter are covered by our relevant company OPS manuals. As for you plank wing boys, I've no idea - my guess as most people say is that it would be covered in your OPS manual |
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