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Foreign-reg (N) Dry Lease on UK AOC
I appreciate the mechanism is there to Dry Lease a foreign reg machine for use on a UK AOC (ORS 5 No 319. Para 5.1.2, b) i)) but I would welcome PMs from those whom have first-hand experience of the practicalities and any unforeseen expenses not listed in CAA Scheme of Charges.
We have identified an N-reg machine as nothing available in EASA-land. Thanks in anticipation |
EESDL, please forgive my pedantry, but it’s who, not whom, in this case. ....and N reg on UK AOC..? ...the CAA are so adept at ‘unforeseen’ these days, that ‘expenses’ will be the least of your worries. I admire Elon Musk, he set out to do the impossible. In his case, though, there was a point to it, and some tiny sliver of hope. |
Thanks Dick for that. Have never been one to see the ‘status quo’ as a barrier. All because it hasn’t been done doesn’t mean it can’t be done - especially as it’s been ‘done’ elsewhere in EASA-land. The fact is it needs to be ‘done’ as there is not a suitable airframe available on G-plate - the limit of 7-months max in a year should suffice for our needs. As MSPs once said - Tolerate this and your children will be next ....... |
You misquote them slightly but I can forgive that.... They also sang: ‘A cripple walks in a straight line An imitation of dignity From despair to where’ I fear those may be the words you find yourself reflecting upon. What is this unique aircraft, and why (in all that’s holy) a UK AOC..? Must you charter it? Otherwise you’re running flat-out into a minefield with clown shoes on. (And I’ve been closely involved in doing extraordinary things on UK AOCs in the near-past, but when we hit on acquiring N-reg airframes we swiftly rejected taking on the miserable path you propose. We got them flying, in the end, by other means). |
A range of European operators had N-registered 747s (and others), from new, some years ago; KLM and Air France among them. It appeared to be quite straightforward and they ran them for some years like this. They did not appear to be on dedicated routes, or use dedicated crews with FAA licences.
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WHBM, It is simply not legal to fly an N registered aircraft on an International route without having an FAA licence or at least an FAA foreign licence validation.
In more modern times, the requirement is that if the a pilot is domiciled within the EU and is flying an N registered aircraft within the EU, then that pilot is required to have the equivalent EASA licence and rating. The days of dual licensing and dual ratings are upon us, and actually have been for some time. |
debiassi, neither of the statements in your first two paragraphs are correct. I'm afraid I haven't got the time at the moment to go into why, but please don't peddle misinformation. Things are complicated enough.
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Byproduct of these forums I’m afraid. out-of-date information...... in my day........ people might be surprised what is possible these days - and what is not ;-) |
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