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lelac 2nd Mar 2017 08:19

Travelling on duty - what class?
 
Hey guys / gals, just wondering what is the current situation in our industry (corporate / business / private jets) pilots. When time comes for you to travel on the airlines for a recurrent training or for the usual base-return, which class is your company paying for you? Economy? Business class if flight is more than 4 hours...

EatMyShorts! 2nd Mar 2017 09:39

Here it is Eco for flights shorter than 6 hours, otherwise Biz. Trouble is that our travel department has found out that you can airline to/from Dubai with Ukraine International via Kiev (B738), meaning that both legs are shorter than 6 hours... Quite disrespectful.

CL300 2nd Mar 2017 10:49

They found out very fast lol. I remember these positioning tricks. Glad it has not changed (improved) grrr on the last 5 years. A bit like Enoba-Bordi FL 150 LoL !

Globally Challenged 2nd Mar 2017 11:39

Our little team is put on Eco for short flights and prem-eco (or Business if Prem-eco is not available) for longer flights. Although there is no definition of what a longer flight is :-(

Other colleagues get business everywhere.

g450cpt 2nd Mar 2017 11:42

We travel business class for all legs longer than 4 hours.

galaxy flyer 2nd Mar 2017 11:57

Coach in North America, business outside. There are way too many advantages to business class other than comfort--priority bags, customs expedition, priority if flights get delayed or cancelled.

GF

Hawker 800 2nd Mar 2017 19:37

UK based. Economy when domestic, always business when European/International.

ChickenHouse 2nd Mar 2017 20:10

Here (UK small Biz) the rule is Eco on intracontinental, don't know what'll happen after Brexit, and Business on intercontinental.

212man 2nd Mar 2017 21:18

I don't think Brexit involves moving the UK to a different continent, but let's see the bargaining terms first.....

Lucky8888 3rd Mar 2017 02:31

Business class always.

Loud&Clear 3rd Mar 2017 09:12

The cheapest they can get. And it seems to me that this is the new industry standard. LC

EatMyShorts! 3rd Mar 2017 10:00

We are usually that busy that we get close to the 60 hour limit of weekly duty. For this reason our travel department cannot always book the cheapest flight home, because it may take too long to get to our gateway airport, busting the weekly duty limit.

Tray Surfer 3rd Mar 2017 15:17

Economy as a rule, but depending on fare and what is cheapest.

Although, I have always positioned on my old commercial airline and still know a lot of people there, so as of yet, still to travel actually in Economy... ;)

ShyTorque 3rd Mar 2017 19:25

You mean you get to FLY? We get to position by road and rail.

JTF 5th Mar 2017 06:57

Under 10 hours of flight block time (not per segment) is economy. Over 10 is business or better. West coast based pilots get mostly business for international since both Europe and Asia are 10+ hours. East Coast based pilots at my company get a lot of almost ten hour economy to Europe.

Trim Stab 5th Mar 2017 12:49

Economy class for us.

Flew back from Nigeria a few days ago - two other expat pilots I know were also in economy class.

There were also a few junior British High Commission people and a mid-thirties uk military officer on the flight - all in Business Class.

mutt 5th Mar 2017 18:15

We usually deadhead in a 48 seater A319:) But for days off, its business or first depending on the destination/aircraft configuration. Gotta love seniority.

galaxy flyer 5th Mar 2017 18:37

Funny story, our company, for awhile used 8 hour rule. Captain BS'd the travel agent to putting him in business. F/A and I were booked economy, BA, JFK-LHR. Really not an issue, only 5+45 and I'm only 5'9". I just curl up with and wait it out. At the departure lounge, Cappy gets called to the podium and told Business is oversold and gets upgraded! DOH!

GF

Jet Jockey A4 5th Mar 2017 20:20

Business here.

Jackdaw 5th Mar 2017 21:48

Business not always best. Dubai - UK they provided me with Business with Egyptair changing aircraft at Cairo. NOT recommended. Subsequent trips I chose to route non stop direct with Emirates in economy (similar cost to Business with Egyptair) - several hours quicker door to door, less chance of baggage missing the transfer, and yes EK economy was still more comfortable and less tiring (try sleeping through a few hours on the ground changing flights in Cairo). Of course Business in EK would have been better ! But normally I'd always prefer direct flights. Moral of the story - if given the chance to stipulate then make sure it is Business class in a direct flight if available.


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