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LIML accident or incident?
Anyone know what's going on at Milan Linate? I was boarding a Lufthansa flight, commuting to work, and the airport was suddenly "closed for an an accident." I called the ATIS landline and got the same info. Can't find anything else. 1830Z on January 5, 2017.
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EasyJet from CDG took a turn in holding and diverted to Malpensa just now.
Linate indeed seems to be closed at the moment. |
Just looking at Italian news. It seems a small aircraft - possibly a Cessna 'according to the first indications' - has ended up outside the runway when landing without extending its landing gear. The emergency services are there, but they can't confirm whether there are casualties. The airport is closed.
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Unconfirmed reports that a small GA airplane (possibly a Piper) crashed on landing.
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First italian news report of a Piper (possibily Malibu) going off the RWY after landing without / or with broken landing gear. No fatalities (that's the only sure thing right now - luckily). Most flight diverted to LIMC
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Cleared up
Yeah a GA aircraft landed gear-up. On the only jet runway at a busy jet airport. An airport which has a small GA parallel runway.
~sigh~ |
What's the problem? If I was forced to land with the gear up then I'd ask for the biggest available runway.
My safety is more important than some delays for 'jet' flights. |
What's the advantage for a GA aircraft to want the longest runway possible? Is there a critical distance involved for a non jet GA?
I guess there is no harm in asking the tower if that was the case and they were cleared to land on that runway. |
Perhaps the pilot didn't realise the wheels were up until he landed? Could be jumping to a conclusion though. :)
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Here we go yet again! Posters making statements without knowing any FACTS at all. It really is getting bad on PPRuNe and the moderators should put a stop to it!
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Re linate Airport.
With ref to the runways available at LIML.
18/36 Length 2442 Metres - 17/35 Length 601 metres In my PA28 I know which one I would pick Source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linate_Airport |
Originally Posted by peekay4
(Post 9631141)
Unconfirmed reports that a small GA airplane (possibly a Piper) crashed on landing.
Originally Posted by Birdstrike737
(Post 9631213)
Yeah a GA aircraft landed gear-up. On the only jet runway at a busy jet airport. An airport which has a small GA parallel runway.
~sigh~ ASN Wikibase Occurrence # 173299 Date: 26-JAN-2015 Time: 10:57 Type: Piper PA-46-350P Malibu Mirage/JetProp DLX Owner/operator: Blackjet Aviation GmbH & Co.KG Registration: N369ST C/n / msn: 4636396 Fatalities: 0 / Occupants: 4 Other fatalities: 0 Airplane damage: Substantial Category: Accident Location: Milano-Linate Airport (LIML), Milan, Lombardy - Italy Phase: Landing Nature: Private Departure airport: EDDS Destination airport: Milano-Linate Airport (LIN/LIML) Investigating agency: National Transport Safety Bureau (NTSB) - United States of America Narrative: A Piper PA-46 plane made gear-up landing at Milan-Linate Airport. The runway was temporarily blocked until the removal of the airplane. At the moment there is no news if a failure has been the cause to avoid pilot to landing gear extraction. Four people on board unharmed. |
Regardless...
Regardless of which runway was used, would the airport not be closed until the fire crews had assessed where/if their services were required and officially stood down. Unless of course, they had sufficient crews to cover two emergencies at the same time.
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Originally Posted by Airbubba
(Post 9631273)
Hope it wasn't this guy again:
http://1.citynews-milanotoday.stgy.o...graphers-1.jpg |
Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
(Post 9631334)
Doesn't look like the same aircraft:
From your picture, the paint job and the time of the incident it might be N26TG, a Piper PA-46-350P Malibu Mirage: https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a.../n26tg#c15eb40 |
To Soon To Know...
This is a new event. Rather than GUESSING, let's wait until a few more FACTS are known before pontificating and speculating. What is the point in venting now? I read the same details you do, and I sure do not know much -yet.
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What's the advantage for a GA aircraft to want the longest runway possible? Is there a critical distance involved for a non jet GA? Anyway, my post was mainly to emphasise the silliness of criticising this chap's actions before (any) facts were available. |
Often the short runway is closed and used for parking.
And GA is air traffic just as airliners are, you arenīt a tad more entitled to "your" runway than anybody else is. |
Originally Posted by peekay4
(Post 9631554)
Confirmed it is N26TG, a 1999 PA 46-350P with JetProp conversion.
Hope everyone is OK, looks like the plane will fly again soon. Might need to file that prop a little... |
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