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EMB170 1st Sep 2016 11:31

Sion IGS Approach
 
I would be interested to know, which business aircraft is certified for 6 degree glide path. I know Legacy can do up to 5,5 degrees, ie london City, but not more.

Thank you

EMB170

Son of a Beech 1st Sep 2016 11:46

Falcon 2000, the 2000 without winglets wil even do 6,67 for Lugano


Originally Posted by EMB170 (Post 9493324)
I would be interested to know, which business aircraft is certified for 6 degree glide path. I know Legacy can do up to 5,5 degrees, ie london City, but not more.

Thank you

EMB170


212man 1st Sep 2016 11:56

Falcon 7X is:

https://www.easa.europa.eu/system/fi...e7%20(004).pdf

Propellerpilot 3rd Sep 2016 13:04

What is the relavance to Sion? It does not meet a steep approach criteria as the steep section of that approach already terminates at 7NM and the visual path continues with a 3.5° slope to the threshold, ensuring that aircraft performance and limitations can be complied with on landing and for the missed approach.

EMB170 6th Sep 2016 09:14

@ propellerpilot: OVC 090 what do you do ? you and the aircraft are either certified for 6degrees or you got to do a go around.
this IGS is not a localizer only approach. If you look at the Jeppesen plate G/S is mandatory.
Us in the Legacy have to treat it like Samedan and can only do a visual approach as the aircraft is not certified to follow a 6 degree glidepath. We can't accept an IGS approach but many other business jets do and that's why i was wondering who is actually certified to do it.
I expected the Falcons to be able to do it.

Welle 7th Sep 2016 08:13

Sion
 
Propellerpilot is right - he describes the way most pilots/companies/authorities handle the sion issue.

The steep approach plates for your aircraft show the case of a final approach leading directly to touchdown (e.g. London City), where the aircraft needs to fly a stable approach and be able to do a safe g/a at the minium (taking into account the higher energy due to steep descent)

At LSGS the final approach is a visual 3,5° segment, as long as your aircraft is able to do a normal 3,5° ILS you´re fine .

For the IGS part, - fly in landing configuration or intermediate flapsetting - to fly at a stable speed and ROD - even with A/I on. I have not yet found a restriction on the descent angle for intermediate approaches or enroute descent in an AFM (but off course there might be one...)

my 2 cents
welle


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