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EatMyShorts! 4th Jan 2019 21:06


Originally Posted by Phalare (Post 10351796)
I am also looking at mccPilotlog, but I am a bit struggling with the import process. If you figure out an easy way of doing it.. (I have many errors so far when I import my data from Flylogio..)

You may want to contact the people at mccPilotlog, they are helpful and will be happy to assist you, I guess.

ford cortina 6th Jan 2019 09:34

Been using Skylog Pro for over 10 years, I am very happy with it. One off purchase of £59.90. No other charges after. Every few weeks I back up my logbook and email it to myself. Simple, quick and efficient. very good customer service.

Lucky_lee 10th Jan 2019 07:17


Originally Posted by Phalare (Post 10351796)
Hey Lucky Lee,
I am in the same case, I've been using Flylogio for a while and really disappointed about their new price...108 euros per year ?! This is really not worth it, even though I really liked it so far. What a shame. A fixed subscription could be interesting but not such a monthly price..
I am also looking at mccPilotlog, but I am a bit struggling with the import process. If you figure out an easy way of doing it.. (I have many errors so far when I import my data from Flylogio..)

That's what ticked me off too. If it had been 5Ä a month then I could live with it, but 9Ä is just to much. I actually wrote this to them, and got a reply that they would take it in to consideration, but they also argued that LogTen Pro still was more expensive, since their full packed place them at 113 Ä a year.
About the transfer of hours, you need to export your hours from Flylogio, and then use converter from mccPilotlog homepage to get it converted to their format. I would post you the link, but I haven't made enough posts yet on this forum :)
They say it takes about 8 days, but they have automated the process so it only took about 8 min. The transfer is then just a matter of following their guide in the program.
It wont transfer stuff like type of approach and simulators, and you will probably have to fix the aircraft's as well.
Right now I am running the free version of mccPilotlog, and I have to admit that I like Flylogios setup more. A lot of the stuff I am missing, will probably be fixed once I buy their full setup, but I still find the Flylogio setup more smooth and easy to use.

Intrance 10th Jan 2019 15:07


Originally Posted by EatMyShorts! (Post 10352057)
You may want to contact the people at mccPilotlog, they are helpful and will be happy to assist you, I guess.

Can not exactly share that sentiment. While I've been using mccPilotlog for years and have had almost no issues, I recently had to deal with their support and it was a pain. The software would not launch on multiple freshly installed Windows systems. Included in my first support request were error logs, an educated guess from my side and plenty of information. I had to go through about 6 cycles of completely unrelated questions, and just gave up when they wanted to set up a Teamviewer session because I knew it would be pretty hopeless.

If even one person who actually works with or on the software had taken a look at the error logs I sent the problem would have been solved in a single email. Instead I have to deal with incompetent support.

The issue turned out to be localization, the software didn't seem to recognize a Windows language setting that was different from EN-US, even though the system language itself was full English etc. Super easy fix for them to implement in the software, but due to their kind of hopeless support it probably won't be fixed anytime soon. Because even explaining the issue to them after I solved it, they still didn't understand. There was also supposed to be a new version (5.0) out at the end of 2017 but not a word about it in all of 2018. It feels to me like the actual developers are not in the house anymore and it's only given very basic updates.

So, while the software works, and works well for now, I'm not all that hopeful about continued support myself. Just something to think about for people still looking for the best solution.

Phalare 10th Jan 2019 16:29


Originally Posted by Lucky_lee (Post 10356725)
That's what ticked me off too. If it had been 5Ä a month then I could live with it, but 9Ä is just to much. I actually wrote this to them, and got a reply that they would take it in to consideration, but they also argued that LogTen Pro still was more expensive, since their full packed place them at 113 Ä a year.
About the transfer of hours, you need to export your hours from Flylogio, and then use converter from mccPilotlog homepage to get it converted to their format. I would post you the link, but I haven't made enough posts yet on this forum :)
They say it takes about 8 days, but they have automated the process so it only took about 8 min. The transfer is then just a matter of following their guide in the program.
It wont transfer stuff like type of approach and simulators, and you will probably have to fix the aircraft's as well.
Right now I am running the free version of mccPilotlog, and I have to admit that I like Flylogios setup more. A lot of the stuff I am missing, will probably be fixed once I buy their full setup, but I still find the Flylogio setup more smooth and easy to use.

Thanks Lucky_lee ! I have done it a few days ago, and although it took me some annoying hours to get the right figures, the transfer is now done.
Indeed, I lost the type of approaches but I can live with it..
So far I'm pretty happy about Mcc, it looks more professional and there are a lot of interesting options if you buy the PRO version. Only drawback so far is the design which looks extremely old and the fact that it takes some time to understand how everything works.

eeeaddict 22nd Jan 2019 18:45

Is there any reason to not use excel?

ChickenHouse 25th Jan 2019 11:17


Originally Posted by eeeaddict (Post 10367610)
Is there any reason to not use excel?

Doesn't impress the miniskirt bikini top?

Banana Joe 25th Jan 2019 13:09


Originally Posted by Phalare (Post 10357145)
Thanks Lucky_lee ! I have done it a few days ago, and although it took me some annoying hours to get the right figures, the transfer is now done.
Indeed, I lost the type of approaches but I can live with it..
So far I'm pretty happy about Mcc, it looks more professional and there are a lot of interesting options if you buy the PRO version. Only drawback so far is the design which looks extremely old and the fact that it takes some time to understand how everything works.

They should release v5 in February so maybe there will be a refresh of the layout as well.

Son of a Beech 26th Jan 2019 21:44


Originally Posted by Banana Joe (Post 10370516)
They should release v5 in February so maybe there will be a refresh of the layout as well.

thats what they said a year ago, weíll see

Intrance 27th Jan 2019 18:15


Originally Posted by Banana Joe (Post 10370516)
They should release v5 in February so maybe there will be a refresh of the layout as well.

The version 5.0 was supposed to be released end of 2017 already... don't hold your breath.

Banana Joe 27th Jan 2019 19:57

During my last exchange with them they even told me the week. Third week of February.

Now one can only hope...

Intrance 28th Jan 2019 09:07

Yeah, I'll go with the tried and true "seeing it before believing it" in this case :P. So let's wait and see indeed.

obelix360 31st Jan 2019 13:17

Also using mccPilotlog. Happy with this.
Are Electronic Pilot Logbooks acceptable from companies? In case someone has missed the paperbook?

Banana Joe 31st Jan 2019 14:36

Ryanair don't accept electronic logbooks. At least this is what they have written in their briefing pack. I guess they actually mean electronic format so you can print it, but don't quote me on this.


Son of a Beech 1st Feb 2019 02:15


Originally Posted by obelix360 (Post 10376430)
Also using mccPilotlog. Happy with this.
Are Electronic Pilot Logbooks acceptable from companies? In case someone has missed the paperbook?

They are acceptable to the French, and Dutch CAA and some minor companies I flew for.

Back in 2004 Netjets didnít approve it. So I spend two days writing in my flights in a paper logbook. When I asked the why they wanted paper they said because it was less likely to be fraudulent. I thought that without problems I could have been writing in 300 hrs space shuttle with 3 lunar landings and they wouldnít have known the difference, but obviously didnít point this out on my interview. My ďoriginalĒ paper copy logbooks where approved. But I stop writing again after that. Itís the new millennium, if itís good enough for the CAA, itís good enough for me.

BTW, using MCCflightlog because of its capability to cynchronise with the company so like a true lazy pilot I donít have to do it myself. Now only waiting for the new app so I donít have to syncs via my laptop anymore.

gatelli 9th Feb 2019 20:38

Flightlog
 
Airline FlightLog is a new app (both iOS and Android), with tons of tools for pilots. Easy to use, if you can import your roster directly, and the app can fill the flight times automatically for you... (and it's 100% FREE !)

pilot dude 27th Feb 2019 16:40

Well, strike MCC pilot log, cause after selling it as a lifetime subscription they now also want to get paid per month. So much for free for life

EatMyShorts! 27th Feb 2019 18:45

Since when is that? Their homepage still says

And yes, the price is affordable. We do not run a subscription plan. We have 3 editions with one-time fee for life-time use. The basic STD Edition is even FREE.
Maybe this information is outdated, but so far I have not had any e-mail from them telling me about a change of plan.

pilot dude 28th Feb 2019 08:20

Thatís because they changed the name of the company

https://crewlounge.aero/

EatMyShorts! 28th Feb 2019 13:33

Oh no! Thanks for the information then. For the time being, my service still works without problems. I got the Enterprise Edition, though.


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