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patrick sullivan 14th Mar 2015 17:13

How do you pay for you fuel
 
Good day all. i am new here and my reason is to find out some information in relation to the way the private charter industry pays for its fuel when landing across Europe?

would anyone give me a couple of minutes of their time to answer the following?

Are all payments made by card or cash?

If cards is it fuels cards or credit/debit cards issued by the charter company or personal ones that you have to reconcile?

i would like to thank you in advance if you take time out to help me with this. my reason is that im looking at launching a product to streamline the payment process.

Radix 14th Mar 2015 18:53

How do you pay for you fuel
 
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dirk85 14th Mar 2015 19:45

99% of the time we use fuel cards provided by the company.
We have a fuel broker providing us with the best carnet/refueler combo for each airport, or a fuel release when necessary.

In Europe Uvair, BP, Shell, Nautilus, Petrofer cover the vast majority of the airports.

patrick sullivan 14th Mar 2015 20:53

thanks very much for your help to date gentlemen and please excuse my ignorance on the terminology!!

so im guessing that a new card issued outside of the main fuel suppliers wont work due to the acceptance? i.e if visa, amex, mastercard tried to issue cards they wouldn't be generally accepted by the supplier?

what next 14th Mar 2015 21:41


so im guessing that a new card issued outside of the main fuel suppliers wont work due to the acceptance? i.e if visa, amex, mastercard tried to issue cards they wouldn't be generally accepted by the supplier?
Why wouldn't they? We carry a wad of fuel cards on each aeroplane only two of which are issued by petroleum companies (Shell and Air BP). All the others (UVAIR, Petrofer, and all the others that I don't remember because I rarely use them) are some sort of specialised credit cards. So I don't see any reason why an "Air Mastercard" should not be accepted - after all, every fuel supplier happily accepts a normal Mastercard.

CL300 15th Mar 2015 08:57

I paid with an AMEX for years, the only difference being that usually you are paying the airport posted price and not the negotiated price with your fuel supplier. Bue if ground ops is efficient, you can sometimes negotiate as well. But not in places where it is either monopolistic or state owned ( usually)

patrick sullivan 16th Mar 2015 11:06

Fantastic information. thank you all for sharing your knowledge.

Tequilaboy 16th Mar 2015 14:59

Fuel cards vs credit/charge cards
 
Interesting we were having a chat about this earlier however there is no straight answer.

Interested to hear about what this new vision is, please do share. Funny feeling it will be a money wallet.


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